Talk:Pandad IV

So Many Presidents

Is there any evidence that this isn't the same president as in The Three Doctors? Not that I'm proposing combining the pages, but, if not, shouldn't the page reference that it may be the same president somewhere? Schreibenheimer ☎ 14:27, January 15, 2020 (UTC)

Turn it around and ask if there's any evidence that he is. Also, remember that speculation is not allowed on pages. --DCLM ☎ 14:38, January 15, 2020 (UTC)

Coda for the future: turns out there was evidence that he was, hiding away in an old DWM short story, so as of today the pages have, in fact, been merged. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 01:50, June 17, 2020 (UTC)

The Time Lords and the Doomsday Weapon

Not sure which page to discuss this on as it affects several, but... in the first chapter of Doctor Who and the Doomsday Weapon, there's nothing to state that the First, Second and Third Time Lords shown there are the same as the ones who presided over the Doctor's trial, and yet several pages - this one, Socra and Adelphi state that it says so explicitly. While the three Time Lords do say "we sent the Doctor to Earth," there's no reason that is a personal "we" and not simply "The High Council". Indeed, the only thing directly linking any of the Doomsday Time Lords to any others is that the "First Time Lord" is said to be the highest in the society (ie. the Lord President) so it's probably Pandad IV. -- Constonks ☎ 17:56, July 30, 2020 (UTC)

What you're missing is that this story treats the credit from War Games ("First Time Lord", "Second Time Lord" and "Third Time Lord") as actual hierarchical titles, not simply as descriptors. And The Legacy of Gallifrey gives us a source for the make-with of the hierarchy of the top Time Lords not having changed in the interval between The War Games and The Three Doctors (and the novelisation of that one also reiterating the President/First Time Lord as the very one who presided in The War Games). If we had Doomsday Weapon alone perhaps we should remain agnostic about what the "we" mean, but in point of fact there is plentiful reason in valid sources for that to be the personal "we". Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 18:55, 8 December 2021 (UTC)