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Is the battle of canary wharf the latest battle in the Time War. I don't think the events of evolution of the Daleks count. ---Si http://images.wikia.com/tardis/images/e/e4/Si_HTL_Seal_Leader.PNG 19:31, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

There's already another topic about that, although to answer your question I don't believe the events of Manhattan/Evolution count either, being not a proper battle. ~ Ghelæ -talk-contribs 19:36, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

I'd say that the events of Bad Wolf/The Parting of the Ways would count as the last battle of the Time War. As Super-Rose said when she erased the Emperor and the Daleks, "the Time War ends." --Vote Saxon 20:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but she thought there were no Daleks left in all of history, she apparently didn't know of the Cult of Skaro and their ship (probably for reasons such as that the writers hadn't thought of them yet). ~ Ghelæ -talk-contribs 20:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Good point, although I'm sure it could be suggested that as the Cult and their ship were inside the Void, that they were in a sense removed from history. Plus the Doctor only thought the Cult were a legend, but if Rose could see across time and space, she would know of their existence. Anyway, I consider the Doctor's meetings with the Cult to be completely separate from the Time War, as we don't know if they were created as a response for the war or not. --Vote Saxon 20:26, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

There's another discussion on this, but... If Rose knew of their existence, why didn't she vape 'em like the rest? There's a line in one of the books where she says she's sure she got every single Dalek she was aware of, and I believe the new books are official BBC canon. The loophole probably being that the Bad Wolf's perception and powers were 'limited' to a single universe, which the Cult were outside. Anyway I would personally say the Time War ended with the destruction of Gallifrey, Skaro, and the vast majority of both races, i.e. before the new series started. Others will disgree. --Gai-jin 12:47, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

As per discussions and disagreements on this page and Forum:Last Great Time War, I think it's worth saying that, until we can reach an agreement (if we can), I have changed the articles on the Battle of Canary Wharf and the Battle of the Game Station to reflect them as being in the aftermath of the LGTW, as that seems to me like a good compromise for now as it can be taken either way to both sides of the discussion. ~ Ghelæ -talk-contribs 14:55, 2 May 2007 (UTC)