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Hidden cats

Got a reply back from Dopp today, which reads:

Thanks for contacting us about this issue. We've phased out that preference due to lack of use across Wikia, and anyone who still has it is grandfathered in until they select "Restore all default settings" in their preferences. We don't currently have a way of overriding this phase-out.
Hidden Categories still work, however, and you can see them in Category:Hidden categories and in your pages' source code (although i see that you're embedding them in templates, too, so that further complicates things). Apologies for the complications this raises. I hope the existing tools provide enough of a workaround for your team members to support the wiki.

I've responded with a feature request to just make it a standard admin power to see hidden categories. This is, I'm sure, technically possible, but I wouldn't hold out hope. If that change is technically easy — which it might be — then someone on the dev team might say, "Yeah, that's worth 1 minute of my time." If it's at all time-consuming, I wouldn't expect much action, because the move has a terrible cost/benefit ratio for Wikia. It's only a few big wikis like us, MemAlpha, and Wookieepedia that even care about hidden cats, despite the fact that they are in wide use on Wikipedia. So we're effectively asking for something for us, rather than a change that most of Wikia will actually use.

Basically, in your position, your only hope of access to hidden cats is to go to Hidden categories or Maintenance, where most of the hidden categories are attached.
czechout<staff />    <span style="">18:31: Fri 02 Mar 2012 

Rory's main page image

Rory - TDTW&TW.jpg

This is what you said last night when I edited the main image to the Rory page:

"SO what if its new - it's better to have a older, better quality quality picture than an badly cropped, poor quality newer one."

Now, to be honest I don't appreciate this as it quite rude really. The image is taken from a BBC One HD screencap - the quality is good, it is not poor. It's not badly cropped either - I just cropped Amy's hair out as it's not relevant to the Rory page is it?

There's no need to be rude like that. There really isn't.

I'm just doing this because I find it contradictory as Rory's current page image

RoryWilliams1.jpg

should really be cropped as half of it doesn't contain Rory.

Portriat images on this wiki help the page flow much better which is what I was trying to do. The fact its a newer image too, which I've been told on here before is the best thing to have makes the page more upto date. That's a key thing surely?

The current landscape image scrunches the page up and doesn't make it flow well, so surely one that is much better for that, irrespective of whether it's super high quality is surely better? Beside, when the page is at it is, the image doesn't appear high quality until you click to see it full-sized, so surely my image, which is the same quality all the time is much more suitable?

I just hope you reconsider this as I didn't appreciate your rude reason last night. Atleast I've had constructive criticism before in the past, not just plain rudeness, so I'll leave it at that.

--Bbll22 talk to me 11:38, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Voice actors

Thanks for the great suggestion! {{{voice actor}}} is now a part of {{Infobox Individuals}}. I've also thrown in {{{other actor}}} for those cases of performances of characters in limited narrative circumstances, like youth/age/alternate universe/because Frazer Hines got sick/because William Hartnell inconveniently died. See them in operation at Fourth Doctor and Sarah Jane Smith.
czechout<staff />    <span style="">05:42: Sun 11 Mar 2012 

Cardiff, Wales

Personally, I'm not sure either way. Though putting "[Earth country], Earth" I would absolutely never do. I completely agree Cardiff, Wales, UK, Earth isn't right.

I think I put it up because of the way it flows more than it being necessary. What would you say about smaller towns like Foxgrove or Dry Springs with that pattern? -- Tybort (talk page) 20:45, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, I wasn't thinking of that at all. I was fine with [City] for major cities and [City], [Country/State] for smaller and fictitious places. I considered the [City] style was because most people know what you mean by London, Liverpool, Beijing and so forth and you wouldn't for much smaller villages and [City], [Country/State] would be okay for them. I was just double checking you thought that was okay. -- Tybort (talk page) 20:54, March 11, 2012 (UTC)
I gather you intend the same pattern for story infoboxes as well? -- Tybort (talk page) 20:55, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Requested variables

  • Home era/Era active/anything like it. No. Just no. Not going into that minefield again. It's out for good. As you'll remember, in the thread Forum:Home Era you yourself de-activated the line after a lengthy discussion that was well attended by a lot of people. As far as I'm concerned, you determined the consensus on the matter and implemented change based on that consensus. If you want it back, now, you'll have to reverse yourself and get it approved through the forums. And it does rather look like both I and Tangerineduel were strongly opposed to it in the original discussion, so I wouldn't expect a reversal from either of us, unless you come up with arguments not originally put forward. I've got a bot run planned to eliminate all that data, based on the original consensus, so if you're going to start a new discussion, please let me know in the next 24 hours, or the point will be moot anyway.
  • Affiliation is a part of {{Infobox Individual}}, as has been written up in the documentation.

So that's two for three on new variable requests. That's pretty good. Keep 'em comin'! (But please use Forum:New infoboxes and you from now on, so that it's all centralised.)
czechout<staff />    <span style="">21:44: Sun 11 Mar 2012 

New achievements

Any chance I might be able to get you to find me some appropriate images from MA covers which would complete the MA novels achievement track that's in place at tardistest? I've got all the level names done, but I never got around to getting pics.
czechout<staff />    <span style="">23:33: Sun 11 Mar 2012 

Eighth Doctor infobox pic

Hey, sorry to jump on it so quickly, but I've deleted the pic you just uploaded for the Eighth Doctor. That pic, or one very like it, was what was on the page for a long time, and then deliberately deleted, per the discussion at talk:Eighth Doctor#Infobox pic. The one in the elevator was arrived at after quite a bit of discussion and it's actually pretty great. Is it left-looking? No, but it's not right-looking, and the body angles are all slanted left, because he's standing left, but looking up.

A part of the deal in changing out these doc pics is to emphasize the need for, as much as is allowed by the body of work of the actor, extreme closeups in infoboxes.

The elevator shot ticks the boxes of a great infobox pic, and, moreover, it was agreed through discussion. What we really need is a more characteristic Tenth Doctor pic that's tight, left looking and preferably smiling rather than the dour I'm-about-to-die thing that's currently going on. I could look for it, but I need to get back to infoboxes.
czechout<staff />    <span style="">15:35: Wed 14 Mar 2012