User talk:MrThermomanPreacher

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Plot on novel pages

Hi, plot does not form a part of the layout of novel artuicles, see Tardis:Format for Novels.

Additionally, please do not copy summaries such as those on the Doctor Who Reference Guide onto this wiki, this is considered plagiarism. Thanks. --Tangerineduel 15:57, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

Semi-protect

Adding the semi-protect (as you did when creating the Series 6 page) does nothing. The tag is just for illustration purposes for the articles that have semi-protection added to them (which needs to be done by admins). Thanks. --Tangerineduel 15:32, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

Flutterbird

Hey, thanks for starting a new article on flutterbirds. It's great to have obscure info like that. But i notice you've cited a specific issue of DWA for that, which is a little vague. Are you saying it comes from a non-fiction prose article within the magazine, or that it comes from the comic strip? If it's the former, you should cite the article it comes from in a more formal way, like this:

<ref>Author name, if known.  "Article Name".  ''[[DWA Issue 151|''Doctor Who Adventures'' #151]].  Page number.  Date.</ref>

and then at the bottom of the article, add:

==References==
{{reflist}}

If it comes from the comic strip then you should cite it somewhat like you've done, in parentheses following the last word of the point you're trying to make for which the reference is valid: In the case of this short article, you'd keep it just where it currently is, but use this format instead: (COMIC: "Name of story"). Note that this would also apply if the flutterbirds came from a prose fiction story, but I'm not sure if DWAM run those. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 17:57, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

My own Doctor Who Wiki

Hi, since I've been gone for a while, I've come back and made up a thought that I am going to create a Doctor Who Wiki about Series 5 and if you'd like to edit. Or if you don't want to, that's fine. I'll tell you once it's ready! --Trikster87 16:56, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

It's not copyright, it's my own and I'm offering you to come and edit but you don't have to. --Trikster87 17:37, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Template case

Hi, when creating template make sure everything (aside from names) is lower case. For instance 'Korven Stories' should be 'Korven stories'. I've moved the template to correct this. Thanks. --Tangerineduel 17:32, April 29, 2010 (UTC)

Jixen Page

Don't revert pages unless you have a good reason. The original page was poorly written and didn't follow the manual of style. Specifically:

It didn't use proper citations for episodes.
The episodes use the same prefix, so there's no reason to repeat it in the infobox.
The Life Cycle section is for species which have complex life cycles, like the Wirrn. If it's just a single line about lifespan, add it to the biology section.
Speculation on the Jixen reoccurring isn't needed and saying they're the second "most major" isn't important (especially if the Korven and CCPCs are apparently both "most major").
If there's no external links, don't add an external link section.
The category:species is a vague super-category. If the Jixen fit in a sub-category (which they do), you don't add them to the Races and species category. -<Azes13 14:33, May 15, 2010 (UTC)

Oroborus article

Hiya again :) Thanks for starting the Oroborus page — and indeed all your work on pages related to TV. Please remember, however, that, as an in-universe article, Oroborus is bound by the Point of view policy, which principally means that the article should be written in the past tense. I edited this one for you, but if you could remember to write in the past tense, it'd be very helpful. :) CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 15:45, May 18, 2010 (UTC)

The Pandorica Opens

Please stop adding in categories on the pages of those that did not appear. Weevils were seen and pictured on set, but did not appear on screen so are not listed as so. And the Slitheen were mentioned, not raxicorricofallapitorians. Thank-you. The Thirteenth Doctor 21:25, June 19, 2010 (UTC)

Copying events

I've notice that with a few pages, you've just copied and pasted what happened to certain characters from one page to another, such as Churchill and Bracewell's pages. Please don't do this in future as each page should be written individually and not contain the exact same wordings of events. The Thirteenth Doctor 13:14, June 20, 2010 (UTC)

Spoilers

Please don't add spoilers to main article pages as you did on the Eleventh Doctor's page. Even adding in the nav-bars for future appearances in SJA is considered spoilers, so please don't do so. Thank-you. The Thirteenth Doctor 12:54, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Tense

Thanks for sorting out the tense on the Richard Mace article. I made a mess.--Skittles the hog 21:09, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

You're Welcome. --MrThermomanPreacher 21:15, August 22, 2010 (UTC)

K9 TV series

Hey, how do you watch the K9 TV series. Is it online? Or are you able to watch it on TV? I'd like to watch it so I was wondering if there was any way to do so. The Thirteenth Doctor 09:55, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

I watch it on Youtube, the first 21 episodes are on it and i expect the remainder will be uploaded soon. MrThermomanPreacher 09:58, August 24, 2010 (UTC)

References

When you put in a reference can you put it like <ref>web address</ref>. It makes it page look neater and it should be like that as per the Manual of Style. Cheers. Mini-mitch 17:10, October 4, 2010 (UTC)

Headings

"Profile" is not a heading. Do not use it, substitute it with things like Biography, History, Biology etc.--Skittles the hog 13:44, October 23, 2010 (UTC)

Battles in Time info

Thanks for updating the Battles in Time information with the new species that batled the Daleks, its proving an interesting read. Revanvolatrelundar 19:56, December 9, 2010 (UTC)

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You are invited to join the discussion at Forum:Moving the tables of content to the right.

Change to your user page

I just realized that I changed your user page by mistake. I was trying to categorize some pages that existed only in un-created categories, and your user page, for reasons I'm not quite sure, was in an uncreated cat called Infobox templates. I switched it for a couple that seemed appropriate to what was on the page. If you don't like this change, obviously feel free to revert. I'd revert it myself, but I'm not sure if you were genuinely trying to put your user page into a valid template cat or not. If you were, those two would be appropriate. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 09:11, January 4, 2011 (UTC)

Hi again. Yanno, I was actually wrong, above, to have put the page into "real" categories. Turns out it's a violation of tardis:user page policy to put your user page in categories that make it appear as though it's a "real" article. This includes putting your user page into categories for templates. It makes it harder to do maintenance on the template categories if they include pages not in the template namespace. Template categories are only for those pages in the template namespace — e.g. those pages that begin with template:. User pages can only be intentionally categorized in categories that are relative to the user: namespace, such as Category:User en. Sorry for the confusion.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 

Hi.

Just saying Hi, Mr.ThermomanPreacher. And by the way, it was me who said 'You are on both Primeval Wiki and Doctor Who Wiki' on the Primeval Wiki. From 90.215.45.50 17:42, January 22, 2011 (UTC)

Sentence case

Please note all heading should be in sentence case. This is part of the MOS. Thanks. Mini-mitch 18:35, February 1, 2011 (UTC)

Paradox Lost

Hey, just wanted to tell you why I deleted your work at Paradox Lost. This page has been created and deleted several times now, and it's never improved the quality of its info. The main rule it offends is tardis:spoiler policy, which holds that it's just too soon to put this article up yet. I know there are a lot of story pages here which don't have much more information. The difference here is that there can't be any information yet (because the story is months away from release), whereas other empty pages relate to stories long since published. The former we don't keep; the latter we do. This deletion in no way reflects upon you or your contributions, and is purely administrative. Please don't take it personally.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 

Your input is needed!

You are invited to join the discussion at Forum:Should novels & audio stories have a plot description?. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:38, March 23, 2011 (UTC)

Your input is needed!

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czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 23:22:10 Fri 01 Apr 2011

Vandal.

I come from the Mass Effect wiki with a warning. Their was a vandal that originated from our wiki(as far as we know) and has done over 500 vandalism edits, he has also moved to atleast eight different wikis including the Call of duty wiki, World of warcraft wiki, and the L.A. Noire wiki. If you see a guy by the name of lancer or spithog98, thats probably him(just so you know this guy mimics other users, there is a real Lancer by the name of Lancer1289, you can contact him here for more information. I am going to stay here and help monitor this wiki until I can determin that he wont come here or he has been stoped.Legionwrex 23:06, April 30, 2011 (UTC)

Avoid over-captialization

Hey, thanks for creating a whole flurry of articles lately. One thing, though. If you're creating an article about an unknown person, please take care to avoid over-capitalization. Take, for example, Delivery Man. "Man" isn't the guy's last name. It should be possible to link directly to the completely uncapitalized, ordinary noun delivery man. We shouldn't be forced to type

[[Delivery Man|delivery man]]

just to be gramatically/stylistically correct. Yes, in cast listings we do want to reflect the typography we see on the screen. So if we see "Delivery Man" in the credits, we'd list in that way in our cast list. But the actual article itself would be "Delivery man". (Technically, too, people with ordinary titles should be "future-proofed" by adding disambig afterwards, like delivery man (Tardisode 7). That way, when another delivery man shows up in the credits of some future episode — and he will — we don't have to go back and unlink this one.)

Again, thanks for continuing to edit here, and if you have any questions, don't hesitate to ask.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 18:17:59 Thu 19 May 2011

Your input is needed!

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Images

Please ensure that you remove black borderlines when you upload images. Thanks----Skittles the hog--Talk 17:41, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

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You are invited to join the discussion at Forum:Years - Separate pages or Century pages. Mini-mitch\talk 14:51, July 6, 2011 (UTC)

Minimum standards for articles about production personnel

Heya :) Thanks for adding in new pages for behind-the-scenes personnel! Coupla points, though. All real world personnel articles must:

start with {{real world}}
contain an external link to their IMDB page (using {{imdb name}}), except for those very few people who don't have an IMDB page
contain {{NameSort}}, so that the page is automatically sorted by surname in categories
have a list of the specific episodes/serials they worked on. While a crew member's series is in transmission, as with Miracle Day, you may say that they "worked on Torchwood: Miracle Day", but you should leave behind {{TV crew stub}} to alert readers that the article is at a very early stage of development.

You may find it easier to use the preloadable formats, rather than building a page from scratch, because the preloadables have the minimum structure already in place.

To retrofit an IMDB listing onto a page without one, just use the {{imdb name}} template.

Thanks again for your efforts, and if you need additional help, please don't hesitate to ask.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 16:04:38 Wed 27 Jul 2011

In your recent round of page creations for Escape to LA, I thank you for using {{real world}} and the especially valuable {{NameSort}}. However, I must again ask you to please take the 30 additional seconds necessary to include a link to the person's IMDb page with {{imdb name}}. Also, if you're going to do no more than give a person's role in TW, please use {{TV cast stub}} or {{TV crew stub}} so that it's clear to other users which cast and crew articles need expansion.

As always, thanks for your continued edits here.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 16:17:16 Sun 31 Jul 2011

Why create talk pages?

Why are you creating talk pages with nothing on them? --Tangerineduel / talk 13:12, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Because, it implies that because the talk page is active there's a discussion happening. Instead...there's nothing. The fact that a discussion page exists says to anyone looking that there's something that needs to be discussed. And if there is something that needs to be discussed, relating to all those templates the forum would be a better place to start a discussion relating to so many templates. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:21, August 3, 2011 (UTC)

Past tense

Just a reminder, all pages, including timeline pages must be written in the past tense, see Tardis:Manual of Style#Tense. Thanks. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:48, August 6, 2011 (UTC)

Your input is needed!

You are invited to join the discussion at Forum:Alienation of new and IP users. MM/Want to talk? 20:37, August 9, 2011 (UTC)

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czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 17:11:53 Mon 22 Aug 2011

City of the Damned characters

Thanks for adding pages for the City of the Damned characters. Could you do me a favour, though, and please move any which have simple adjectival names to Name (City of the Damned) — and don't leave a redirect behind. They're such ordinary, common words we don't want people accidentally linking to them. Chances are, they'll be linked nowhere but ZEPO and COTD pages. We don't want people getting a valid blue link and/or pulling up a page in a search by entering a common word or phrase. So, please move silly, mournful, humble, nervous, Slightly Angry, Very Angry, Need-to-Know, Will-to-Live and daft. Big Hate can remain un-disambiguated cause that's not really a common phrase. Thanks!
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 15:06:54 Fri 26 Aug 2011

EastEnders and all that

Hey, nice work with the Dimensions in Time pages, but could you go back and make sure the gender is correct in each of the "behind the scenes" notes as some of them currently say "he" on pages about females. Could you also add in-line references, so (TV: Dimensions in Time), at the end of the sentences. Thanks

Your input is needed!

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boron

I'm hiding in your toilets, waiting for your kids to take a crap and then see their vag/penis Bootervloot ^{talk to me} 17:47, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

This user has been blocked for a year because of this message. If you would like to remove it, and I could quite understand how you might, you have permission to do so, user page policy notwithstanding.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 14:48: Sun 16 Oct 2011

Timeline pages

Hey, thanks for your work starting new timeline pages. Please remember, though, that a year must actually be mentioned before you can start it. You can't start a year page if you have to qualify the existence of the year by saying "around <year>" or "circa <year>", and leave it at that. We need a specific mention of a year, or a rationale based on solid calculation to start a year page.

For instance, if the story is definitely set in 4050 and a character named Jason Blah tells a tale of something that happened "twenty years ago", we can start an article for 4030 with the language, "According to Jason Blah, 4030 was the year in which <something happened>".

A particular danger with timeline pages is going to some other DW reference site, and using their dating without verifying how they got that year. A good rule of thumb is, if you don't have the book/episode/comic story in front of you, don't create a timeline page. DW timeline pages are notoriously subjective. Everyone wants to create the perfect DW timeline, and they'll do whatever it takes to try to make one with as many entries as possible. Frequently, this means that they've added some level of conjecture. We cannot accept someone else's word on the timeline. You can use one to trigger a bit of research — it's fine if another person's website sends you in the direction of a book — but it cannot be used as a sole sources, as a fan website is not a valid source.

I've deleted a few of your new page creations today. It would be really helpful to me if you could go to any year pages you may have created without reference to the primary source — or any pages that use the language "circa", "about" or "around" — and put the tag {{delete}} on it. Thanks :)
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 14:48: Sun 16 Oct 2011

An Isomorphic Question

Hello. I just wondered if anyone could answer my question on Doctor Who:

In the episode A Christmas Carol the Doctor said there was no such thing as Isomorphic controls, but in the episode The Sound of Drums he clearly saw the master use an Isomorphic Laser Screwdriver??

Can someone leave the answer on my Talk Page.

Oliver 18:17, October 18, 2011 (UTC)

Vandal blocked

The vandal who created that... unpleasantly named page has been blocked and the page has been deleted. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. --Revan\Talk 17:04, October 22, 2011 (UTC)

Body part articles

Please stop creating articles about body parts for the time being. I've opened a prop delete discussion at head, and we should have a bit of a natter before other similar articles are created. Yes, heads exist in the DWU, but have they ever actually been defined? That's the real problem in creating an article about a ubiquitous thing.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 22:41: Sat 22 Oct 2011

DWBIT sourcing

Oh, so you're the guy who does this! What in the world does the reference DWBIT 39 mean, as at 3667 and 3682? You need to include a story name, please. It's like giving a reference to a point about Beep the Meep as (DWM 19) rather than (DWM: The Star Beast)

I know you don't normally respond to me on my talk page, but could you please make an exception in this case? I've never understood what these little (DWBIT #xx) refs are, and I'm very curious about them.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 21:36: Sun 23 Oct 2011

Ahhhhh. Well, then you can't use it as the sole source of an in-universe article, like a year page. Non-narrative sources cannot be the only basis for an in-universe article, per T:CANON. They can be used to supplement things, so you could mention it on, say, Dalek, in the behind-the-scenes section. But you can't include it within the in-universe section of an article, or use it as the basis for an in-universe article.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 21:44: Sun 23 Oct 2011

Your input is needed!

You are invited to join the discussion at Forum:What makes a rumour?. MM/Want to talk? 17:43, October 28, 2011 (UTC)

Decade pages

Please immediately stop creating empty decade pages. It has been a long-held goal of this wiki, with discussions available for your perusal in several threads (typically all containing the keyword "timeline"), to rid the database of precisely these kind of useless pages. You must have either a definite occurrence of a reference to the decade, or something meaningful to say about the decade (backed up, obviously, by narrative citation), for such pages to be created.

Timeline pages absolutely may not consist of simply a list of other dates.

Thanks for your help in trying to create timeline pages, but please remember that the goal is not just to have a page for every year, decade and century in existence. Timeline pages are still part of the normal article space, and the normal guidelines apply to them. Chief amongst the guidelines is that there must be DWU narrative mention or specific real world relevance of all topics on the wiki. If you have any questions about this, please ask them on my talk page.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 18:16: Sat 29 Oct 2011

Nope. The presence of a year is not sufficient cause for the creation of a decade page, nor is the presence of a year sufficient cause for the creation of a century page, and so on. There was a time where that was sporadically done on the wiki, but after a lot of effort, we got rid of those type of pages.

See, we used to have a ton of pages that said nothing. In fact, if we allowed the sort of thing you were trying to do, we'd have 2011 pages starting from the page 0, which would be a disastrous waste of time and effort. Yes, a numbering system obviously implies the existence of the "bits in between", but we need for our pages to actually have meaning. A redlink means that nothing happened in that year — or that we haven't yet discovered if something happened in that year/decade/century. And that's a valuable thing for our readers to see. It's better that they see a gap than that they see a largely "false" blue link.

Finally, {{timeline}} obviates your list of years the decade. Basically you were just creating pages that said the same thing twice. There's never a need to create a list of dates so long as you're using {{timeline}}.

It is completely sufficient for most decades to be represented by category pages, not pages in the main namespace. So, category:2380s is fine and even necessary; 2380s is not, unless there's a positive narrative reference to it.

For these reasons, your decade pages are being deleted by automatic process.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 18:40: Sat 29 Oct 2011

Your input is needed!

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czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 20:20: Tue 20 Dec 2011

1849

Is 1849 specifically mentioned in The True and Indisputable Facts in the Matter of the Ram's Skull, or are you extrapolating based on real world end of Edgar Allan Poe's life?
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 20:24: Sun 25 Dec 2011

Per T:CAN, REF works are secondary sources. They may not be used as the sole source behind an in-universe article. You've given the source of The True and Indisputable Facts in the Matter of the Ram's Skull, but really it's The Discontinuity Guide. You've plainly misrepresented the source. The article will therefore be deleted. Please use only the stories themselves for in-universe articles. REF sources are only valid as behind the scenes notes.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 03:05: Mon 26 Dec 2011

Specify incarnations please

In your newly-created article, 1624, you pipe switched the incarnation of the Doctor. Please remember that, according to T:DOCTORS, [[Eighth Doctor]] is preferred over [[Eighth Doctor|the Doctor]]. Thanks :)
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 16:51: Sat 14 Jan 2012

Your input is needed!

You are invited to join the discussion at Forum:Reference books - what do we cover?. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:21, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Romana

Please note that T:ROMANA requires you to link to the specific incarnation of Romana and to display that incarnation number. So in future, please use [[Romana II]], not [[Romana II|Romana]]. Thanks :)
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 21:05: Fri 23 Mar 2012

Audio stories

Hi, I was just looking at the layout of Destination: Nerva and back at the history (I know it was back August last year that you created it). Anyways, when creating pages for audio stories the format of the subheadings is marginally different from TV stories. It goes - Publisher's summary, Plot, Cast, References, Notes, Continuity, External links. For more information on the layout see Tardis:Format for audio stories. --Tangerineduel / talk 14:39, April 9, 2012 (UTC)

Image links

Hi :) Thanks for trying to create a template which provided a link to an image category. I changed and locked your version, however, so I wanted to tell you why. For reasons of design integrity, we want the links used for character image categories to be the same as the links used on TV story pages. We also want the template to function in a way that's easy to understand. If at all possible it should work on the majority of pages simply by using the template name.

For these reasons, your template {{Imagecat}} has been rather radically altered, and is now at {{ImageLink}}. Please see the documentation there for further information. {{Imagecat}} is being stripped from pages and will likely be deleted by the time you read this.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 00:36: Mon 09 Jul 2012

Merge tags

Hi. When using the merge tags add them to one article. Not both. Because when merging we need to know which article to merge into the other. With for example Navigational Officer and Navigation Officer there is nothing on the pages (or the talk page) to suggest which to merge into the other. Thanks. --Tangerineduel / talk 05:19, September 6, 2012 (UTC)

Source check

Please give your source for the actual names Ten-Six-Five and Ten-Six-Six. If it's in Doomsday, please give a time code, cause I can't find it. Thanks :)
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  16:54: Wed 30 Jan 2013

Sorry, could you be a bit more specific? Which confrontation? Can you give me an approximate time code or more precise locational information, please?
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  22:49: Wed 30 Jan 2013

Transcripts don't count for us. You should know that by now. :) Anyway, thanks for being more specific. I was able to find it. No wonder I didn't find it; it was well before they're actually in open dialogue with the Daleks. I think I was thrown, too, because the they make a big point of not self-identifying to the Daleks during the scene you described.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  23:08: Wed 30 Jan 2013

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