Talk:Ludwig van Beethoven
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Citation Needed on Born/Death Year
Where the {{fact}} template is in the intro paragraph for the born/death dates, in this case is Wikipedia a valid source, since this article is showing the real-world born/death years, or does the citation need to be a DWU source? I'm new here, and I read through parts of the Manual of Style, especially T:CITE, and still am unsure. --ToaMeiko ☎ 05:22, August 26, 2013 (UTC)