Talk:Tenth Doctor
King of England?
Should we add the Tenth Doctor to the 'English monarchs' category, for marrying Elizabeth?Liam Mars ☎ 12:34, December 1, 2013 (UTC)
- No, because the spouse of a monarch isn't a monarch. He is part of category:English royalty, but not category:English monarchs.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 15:19: Sat 07 Dec 2013
Indeed; his title would be Prince Consort of England rather than King, despite his own statement of "I'm gonna be king!" in The Day of the Doctor. - MrSiriusBlack ☎ 14:20, December 18, 2013 (UTC)
Return of the 'Doctor Loved Rose' debate
So early last year there was a huge debate here on whether or not The Tenth Doctor loved Rose. But I have found new evidence suggesting that he does, from the 2006 episode School Reunion:
The Doctor: "I don't age. I regenerate. But humans decay. You wither and you die. Imagine watching that happen to someone you..." (Hesitates and fails to finish his sentence)
Rose Tyler: "What, Doctor?"
The Doctor: "You can spend the rest of your life with me. But I can't spend the rest of mine with you. I have to live on, alone. That's the curse of the Time Lords."
Now, I know, once again, that he doesn't directly say that he loves her, but he was undoubtedly heading in the direction of saying it when he hesitated, if you know what I mean. MrSiriusBlack ☎ 16:30, February 1, 2014 (UTC)
- Haven't really read the arguments since they were up, so I don't have a direct comment on this debate (my two cents were it was unspoken and alluded to), but I always took "someone you" as hesitating in saying he loved Sarah Jane in the past. Think about the lines leading into your quote.
- Rose: I thought you and me were...but I obviously got it wrong. I've been to the year five billion, right, but this, no, this is really seeing the future: you just leave us behind. Is that what you're gonna do to me?
- Doctor: No, not to you.
- Rose: But Sarah Jane. You were that close to her once, and, now, you never even mention her. Why not?
OH...I'm a genius. asdfghjkl; MrSiriusBlack ☎ 20:51, February 1, 2014 (UTC)
Temporary block on page editing
I'm blocking this page for an hour so that User:Masterpwn and User:92.15.155.159 have a chance to read our policy on edit wars. Start a discussion here on the attempted change to the page. Once the protection expires, there will be no back and forth editing on this further issue. Shambala108 ☎ 16:43, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
New Infobox Box Image
I'd like to propose a change to the current Tenth Doctor infobox image "TenSpecsBiggerSmileLeftSITL.jpg" to the file I recently uploaded entitled "Tenth Doctor Water of Mars.jpg", as the image is higher quality, and "more up to date" (as up to date as we can get, excluding screenshots from the End of Time and Day of the Doctor). When editing the page I discovered I could not change the image without community discussions, however I couldn't do that until December 2012, which was over a year ago. SaboviaTalk to me 04:26, August 6, 2014 (UTC)
- One problem is that the image you uploaded is a bit squished horizontally.
- But the other issue is that when someone asks for a Doctor or companion image to be changed, they are usually reminded that we have tons of articles on the wiki that don't have any images at all, and that is really more of a priority than starting a new round of voting for a Doctor that isn't current any more. There's no rule that says the image of a Doctor must come from as up-to-date a story as possible.
- Off topic, something is wrong with your signature, as it doesn't have a link to your user page and your talk page, as is required by Tardis:Signature Policy. Shambala108 ☎ 06:05, August 6, 2014 (UTC)
Image change
Having the glasses on the main image kind'a gives off the impression they were part of his main attire, plus you can nly realy see his face, and not in his pest angle if you ask me.BananaClownMan ☎ 18:33, January 5, 2015 (UTC)
- Have you read Tardis:Guide to images? The tightly cropped faces are exactly what we want for infoboxes. Shambala108 ☎ 18:39, January 5, 2015 (UTC)
Removed from personality section
- This incarnation had a very forgiving nature, consistently extending an offer to help even his most dangerous enemies before putting a stop to their evil deeds. (TV: Evolution of the Daleks) He was even willing to forgive the likes of Davros and the Saxon Master. (TV: Last of the Time Lords, Journey's End, The End of Time) However, when his patience reached its limit or his enemies were duplicitous, they received no mercy or second chances. (TV: The Christmas Invasion, The Family of Blood)
While it's probably not too speculative to say the Daleks are the Doctor's enemy given they describe each other as such in-story, T:NPOV says to avoid subjective terms like "evil" or "evil deeds", and the Doctor's complicated relationship with his old childhood friend (at least Ten and Twelve) puts the whole "dangerous enemy" into question with the Master, even if they fall under "dangerous". Also, the Family of Blood and the Sycorax? One off aliens as "enemies"? -- Tybort (talk page) 07:02, February 19, 2015 (UTC)
- I sort of dispute the "willing to forgive Davros" bit as well, unless I'm thinking of a different definition of "forgive", considering he didn't really have the sentiment of his childhood friend, or see the possibility of changing the Daleks and giving them a new home. In The Stolen Earth, after Davros spoke to him on the Sub-Wave, the Doctor effectively just said "Bye," while in Journey's End, he refused to go on any nostalgia tour with Davros and wanted him to get to the point of the matter. -- Tybort (talk page) 01:36, February 23, 2015 (UTC)
I'd like to request permission to add a re-done version of this with more acceptable wording. Is it alright? The Fox King (talk) 02:36, May 30, 2015 (UTC)
Page locked
This page is locked for a week due to edit wars among three users. The current version, posted by User:The Fox King, will stand for now. Anyone who has a problem with that edit must give a reason here. Once the protection is lifted, any further edit warring will be met with a block.
For the record, user:The Fox King is the only one who has given valid reasons for their edit. That's why I've left the page at his/her edit. Removing content without explanation is highly discouraged; if you disagree with someone's edit, address it on the article talk page or their talk page. Shambala108 ☎ 13:40, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
Just to make sure I'm following the rules correctly, I'm posting here that I'm making an edit to this portion of the Tenth's personality section and will add to the sentences and re-arrange the the references to be placed where they correspond with the information relative to them. The Fox King (talk) 00:18, April 24, 2015 (UTC)
Grammar
I have a question. I have found some errors in the grammar and spelling in some words. (I am a grammar nazi). I was just wondering if I could just change the spelling or arrangements of words or finish a word that doesn't look right anonymously. MistressSusan ☎ 23:12, May 11, 2015 (UTC)MistressSusan
- Despite what you might see on some articles here, we do care about proper grammar and spelling. Before you do any edits, however, please make sure you are familiar with Tardis:Spelling and Tardis:Quotation marks.
- There's no need to edit anonymously; several people (including myself) make grammar and spelling edits with their user names. However, if you'd really rather edit anonymously, you would have to be signed out. Shambala108 ☎ 23:50, May 11, 2015 (UTC)
Preventing a revert war
It seems another revert war may happen on here when it shouldn't, so I'm starting a new topic for discussion. The edits I've just made to this article are backed by citations and, from watching the episodes, better reflect what happened and Ten's personality better. For example, saying he "occasionally got into trouble because of an apparent sense of superiority over those less "clever" than he was" is false since he never did, and the Midnight incident was used as a citation, even though the Doctor was only trying to help those humans, not boasting superiority to them and calling them his inferiors. He felt he'd be needed if the creature was hostile and as a Time Lord, hes the last person it would need to become given his faults and uniqueness, so saying that was a bit harsh and unfair. Also, when he said to Rose and Harriet that he was the same man as 9 was, he mean't identity-wise, not as a person since he was a new personality overall. He even said he "literally didn't know who he was", just his identity as the Doctor. What he said to Wilf about 11 not being the same "man" as him I think mean't personality-wise from what he was saying, such as "Everything I am dies(including personality). Some new man goes sauntering away". Because there are multiple ways that can be interpreted, I removed that bit from the section as its unreliable and can cause revert wars. I also removed the bit about him having a sense of arrogance as its false, since he didn't and only occasionally became arrogant when enraged. Saying he had a "sense of arrogance" implies he was always like that. Also, the needless removal of accurate information, such as Ten's ability to pilot the TARDIS skilfully made no sense. Could someone explain that? What everyone's take on all this? The Fox King (talk) 19:45, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
A replay with a numeral listing... 1) There's no evidence he encaged in choitus with Elizabeth, it could have just as easily been a joke about how she was called so due to being unmarried.
2) His TARDIS flying skills aren't anything to boast about. He drifted of course just as much as other Post-Third Doctors. In fact, if anything, he was probably the worst pilot of them all, considering how hectic the TARDIS was when landing.
3) When talking to Rose and Harriet, he talks in great detail the events that Nine lived through, clearly using this as evidence of them being the same person. Regardless, personality had little to do with what he talked to Wilf about, he was more concerned about another man going around and using Ten's experience to prove he's still the Doctor.
4) Ten does act like he knows better in Midnight, which can also be described as him saying he's superior. Regardless, he acts like that on a number of occasions, but Midnight serves as a highlight and the only source available at present. In fact, Midnight was conceived with the idea of turning the Doctor's "listen to me 'cause I'm clever" m.o. against him, as Russell T. Davies confirms of Confidential.
5) Ten was always arrogant, it just manifested from the obviously enraged to the mildly teasing. In fact, arrogance is one of the Doctor's defining traits in his various incarnations, with Ten just being a more notable example.
6) Ending this, I'd like to add that, despite my previous advice, you still don't italicise story links, which sadly falls under the "removing poor grammer" category.
If you have any further questions or points to make, I implore you to state them here. BananaClownMan ☎ 21:19, June 20, 2015 (UTC) Actually, his statement to Ood Sigma about her nickname no longer being accurate can only mean they had sex some time. On Midnight, Ten was only trying to help those humans, and his superior behavior had nothing to do with his statement about being clever as they forced that out of him by insisting on an answer to that question when he kept saying that wasn't important in the situation at hand. Wrong, Ten was not always arrogant. He didn't always go around thinking everyone was beneath him. He just occasionally became arrogant when enraged, so saying he had a sense of arrogance was false. In fact only the First, Sixth, Ninth, Eleventh,and Twelfth Doctors have shown a general sense of arrogance. Two, Three, Four, Five, Seven, Eight, Ten, and the War Doctor didn't. Seen them all, so I know. Ten also was shown better at piloting the TARDIS than any other incarnation, landing in the exact same spot he took off from in under 30 seconds when leaving to take his tie off in front of Martha and returning to where she was later that night in Smith and Jones. The Fifth Doctor also openly praised his piloting abilities with the TARDIS in Time Crash, saying "I've never seen anyone who could fly the TARDIS like". He also landed perfectly in Martha's room in The Lararus experiment, so yes he was exceptional at piloting the TARDIS. As to the TARDIS rocking about when he'd fly it, it is made to be piloted by 6 people at once, so thats why. After being forced to completely regenerated itself following Ten's regeneration, the TARDIS' operations became much more smooth. As to italicising, I've no idea what that is. Show me an example please. Update: I have done a revert, but hit the option for italic. Was that how to italicise the sentences and references? The Fox King (talk) 22:36, June 20, 2015 (UTC)
