User talk:LegoK9
LegoK9Thanks for your edits! We hope you'll keep on editing with us. This is a great time to have joined us, because now you can play the Game of Rassilon with us and win cool stuff! Well, okay, badges. That have no monetary value. And that largely only you can see. But still: they're cool!
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British English, please
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Spoilers aren't cool
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Remember that you should always sign your comments on talk and vote pages using four tildes like this:Thanks for becoming a member of the TARDIS crew! If you have any questions, see the Help pages, add a question to one of the Forums or ask on my talk page. Tangerineduel ☎ 19:59, June 19, 2016 (UTC)
Page moves
I'll keep this brief. Only admin are really allowed to move/rename pages, as non-admins do not have the power to do so fully and properly. Instead, you should always use {{rename}} or {{speedy rename}}, and wait for an admin to carry it out. Even if you're impatient for this result, it's still best to wait it out.
When you moved Golgalith to Golgauth, for example, as a non-admin you were unable to choose not to leave behind a redirect, so I had to, after the fact, delete the old redirect, at the very much incorrect name. You also failed to move any of the links to that page, to the new name. If I were to carry out that speedy rename, I would know that this needs to be done first, and in fact I have SV7, my bot, to really do all that manual work for me.
So please, leave page moves to the admins. {{speedy rename}} is your friend.
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Edit summary
Hi! Please note that the edit summary you left at Series 10 (Doctor Who) (that is, "The Sun is not a reputable source ya dingus") could be construed as a personal attack. Please read both Tardis:No personal attacks and Tardis:Edit summary. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎ 00:37, April 6, 2017 (UTC)
Google doc
Fyi, the Google Doc you linked in Thread:225793 is view-only. – N8 ☎ 17:33, November 12, 2017 (UTC)
- Oops! Thanks.
Block
Given that you've been warned before, you are blocked for a month for violating Tardis:No personal attacks on the edit summary at Alice Zhang. Shambala108 ☎ 18:35, June 10, 2018 (UTC)
- I don't see how that was a personal attack. I reversed an edit on a page I've put work into and said a funny quote from The Avengers. LegoK9 ☎ 19:50, June 10, 2018 (UTC)
If you look at the edit history for Alice Zhang, you can see User:OncomingStorm12th's comment:
- "Highly unusual to do galleries on artist pages. A simple bulleted list is was more usual for these."
followed by your comment:
- "'I recognize the council has made a decision, but given that it's a stupid ass decision, I've elected to ignore it.'"
Yes I know the source of the quote and normally I would give bonus points for a quote from The Avengers, but not in this case. To the average person, it looks like a deliberate attempt to ignore the rules, especially for anyone not familiar with the quote. To the average admin, it looks like an attempt to subvert Tardis:Do not disrupt this wiki to prove a point.
One thing you have to understand is that in this medium it is nearly impossible to recognize someone's mood or intent just by their text. We have no facial or vocal cues to let us know what someone means. Therefore, the typed words have to stand for themselves. If you type something calling someone a name, even as a joke, or suggest that the rules don't apply to you, even as a joke, it isn't always obvious to those reading that you are joking.
One thing I failed to address earlier: your actual edit. OncomingStorm12th suggested that we don't usually use galleries for artist pages. Since that is true, but you disagreed with it, your next step would be to address the issue on the article's talk page, instead of reverting the previous edit. That leads to edit wars, which is something the admins in general try to avoid and is one of the main things I watch out for.
Please keep in mind that your block is a month because I've already had to caution you against personal attacks in edit summaries. During your block I suggest you read Tardis:Edit summary and Tardis:Edit wars are good for absolutely nothing. Thanks, Shambala108 ☎ 03:40, June 11, 2018 (UTC)
- Thank you for the clarification of other guidelines of this wiki. While I understand the quote was unprofessional, I did think I was unfair for it to be seen as a personal attack as it was directed at the edit itself and not the individual who made the edit, in contrast to my previous infraction a year ago. LegoK9 ☎ 18:24, June 11, 2018 (UTC)
Leaks and discussions
I am sorry to have to remind you but encouraging others to watch leaked material is not acceptable on this wiki, including in the Discussions. Please do not repeat that mistake. I deleted the offending comment. Amorkuz ☎ 05:43, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
- Point taken and I will avoid discussing leaks in any further discussions. But if I recall correctly, I asked "Have you seen the leaked clip?" Asking if someone has seen it does not strike me as encouraging someone to watch said clip. If simply mentioning the existence of specific leaked material is against the rules because it could make some seek it out, I will follow that. But it seems like that rule would contradict itself as it mentions leaked material, so some clarification would be appreciated. LegoK9 ☎ 16:27, July 22, 2018 (UTC)
Rename tag
Hi please note that only admins are permitted to remove a rename tag. A rename tag means the name is up for discussion. You can start a post on the talk page arguing against the rename. Thanks Shambala108 ☎ 02:19, February 2, 2019 (UTC)
Non-prejudicially buzzing off buzzards
Right. So first off, I'm sorry that I had to close the thread started by you. It was not personal and without prejudice. Crossovers are difficult in general and, even without them, I'm sure you remember when several editors got overexcited about opening inclusion debates, which led to rather unpleasant consequences. In those cases, the branching continuities were mostly much much smaller than Marvel UK. I hope you agree that we should not cover all of it. The purpose of my closure---and by the way, I did not participate in that thread: I wrote a closing post and closed it---the purpose was to establish a sufficiently high quality standard for starting inclusion debates involving Marvel UK. The criterion of having one character in common is way too low and would spread through Marvel UK like a wildfire. This cannot be allowed to happen. And having dozens of inclusion debates without hopes of succeeding only causes confrontation and is a drag on admin time. Plus, the question of whether a character originates in DWU is somewhat sensitive to chain inclusion, wouldn't you say? So a knee-jerk reaction to a character originating from a DWU story to open an inclusion debate every time such a character is used in any other story---that is also too low a standard. This wiki is devoted to stories intended to be set in DWU. A mere presence of a character does not demonstrate such an intent, especially within a publishing juggernaut such as Marvel, UK or otherwise.
And let's face it. Keepsake's vulture is much less than a character. It's a non-sentient animal that has exactly zero significance to every single story I've seen it in. In fact, it is not unfair to describe it as having only cameos and no plot-related appearances.
To summarise, if you can make a case for Death's Head: The Body in Question based on the four little rules and including a justification regarding being intended to be set in the DWU, sure, start a discussion. Amorkuz ☎ 22:51, February 15, 2019 (UTC)
Images
Hi, can you reupload the images you provided on Thread:246276 (whilst following the wiki's policies)? I feel they would be helpful in making an informed decision. Thanks in advance. --Borisashton ☎ 07:01, February 16, 2019 (UTC)
Opening multiple inclusion debates
I'm afraid that your behaviour starts resembling the time when multiple inclusion debates have been opened at the same time, by the same editor, without properly vetting material. Other editors then enthusiastically voiced their approval, again without properly studying the stories. The debates were long, unpleasant and the wounds inflicted by them on our editing community have not been completely healed even now.
I did not prevent you from reopening a debate that you had started based on incorrect arguments. Your reaction was to open a second debate without reading stories. This cannot be condoned and has to be curtailed.
Thus, you are not to open new inclusion debates in the nearest 3 months. If you absolutely have to participate in inclusion debates, you can use the time to properly research material for the still open debate that you've started. For instance, I'm sure it would be very interesting to learn the opinion of Simon Furman about the relationship between Death's Head and Doctor Who Universe. That has a bearing on the 4th rule, of course. Thus, you can demonstrate your serious attitude to inclusion debates by making sure Furman never stated anything against the idea that Death's Head lives in DWU. Amorkuz ☎ 01:41, February 19, 2019 (UTC)
Editing before validity is decided
On a separate but related note, it has come to my attention that you have on occasion implemented the projected results of a validity debate weeks before even starting the actual debate, for instance, at Special:Diff/2605116. Please refrain from this in the future. There are enough valid stories to work on, without violating Tardis:Valid sources. Amorkuz ☎ 02:18, February 19, 2019 (UTC)
