User talk:Mini-mitch/Archive Talk

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Discontinuity and Production Errors

Discontinuity

It's a direction we could go, but I think much like the current discontinuity section it would be hard to decide what is a 'major' discontinuity and to stop the page from becoming a huge article of arguments. Looking at the page as it is we'd likely either need to make several pages for each Doctor or have that 'Discontinuity in Doctor Who' page with several sub-pages spun off it. Also as the title stands it could refer to all of Doctor Who (TV, book, audios, comics etc), while in theory this isn't a bad thing (as I'm sure editors could find a bit of discontinuity for every single story) it presents an issue of too much information which may turn into just one large discussion.

Having it all in one place would also probably make editing harder, because people could just go through the page responding to every single thing in one edit (rather than the 500 or so they'd need to do otherwise).

On a side note, the semi-protect tag is just that, it's a tag and doesn't do anything, it's to alert people that a page has been semi-protected, but an admin actually needs to protect the page first. --Tangerineduel 15:43, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

User Changing Stuff

I've seen it. I will go through and hit 'rollback' on his edits, but I do want to give the user a chance to continue the discussion on the forum page as after this (and a warning) my only options will be to block the user (and I'd rather go the diplomatic route first). Thanks for leaving me a message. --Tangerineduel 16:03, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

That would have the effect of just moving the discussions (not a huge problem on the classic series pages) but on the new series pages it'd likely have the result of encouraging people to go to town with the debating. --Tangerineduel 16:16, March 26, 2010 (UTC)

Forum:Doctor Who television discontinuity and plot holes

I wanted to get this page up and ready by the time The Eleventh Hour was broadcast. It's not pretty (probably it should eventually go to a tabular format one of these days), but every story (and episode, if you wanna be picky about the BBC Wales era) now has an appropriate redlink just waiting for information to be dumped onto it from the mainspace article page. Though uglier, I decided to make the backslash visible in the links so as to visually confirm for people that they'd be creating an article at the right place. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 00:55, April 3, 2010 (UTC)

Discontinuity Pages Formatting

Is there a page with the rules on how to format the discontinuity pages? The Thirteenth Doctor 21:03, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Production Error Stuff

Thanks for your help in switching over to production error paradigm, but please see Talk:Lost Souls#Production error removal. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 21:07, March 29, 2010 (UTC)

Is There Something I'm Missing?

Are "Production Errors" not the same thing as "Discontinuity, Plot Holes, Errors", 'cos I thought they were? I must admit I agree with removing the rebuttals. Every single plot hole was given a rebuttal, a lot of which were a little far-fetched... The b-Unit's167th Drophyd 12:19, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Well that's not what "Tangerineduel" said, 'cos according to him it's been simplified to Production Errors. Anyway, it's good that they've been removed... The b-Unit's167th Drophyd 13:00, April 5, 2010 (UTC)

Actors Pages

Thank you very much for your efforts to create pages for several Doctor Who guest actors. There are a few things that the three or so pages you've most recently created lack that would help them be even more useful. I know you've already made about 3000 edits, and therefore you're one of our more senior editors, but I nevertheless encourage you to read (or, possibly, re-read) our Manual of style at some point in the near future. It'll give you some pointers about how to format articles. However, here are some key things that you might want to keep in mind for the future.

  • All actor pages should be flagged as an "article about the real world" as near the top of the page as possible, the name of the person must be bolded, and you should link as many words as can be linked to articles on this wiki. So, the article David Ajala should begin:
{{real world}}'''David Ajala''' played [[Peter]] . . .
  • All pages, related to actors or not, should be put into a category when the article is first created. This can be accomplished several ways, but the easiest is just to click "Add category" and start typing. The software will match your text as you type it, so you don't even have to type out the whole category. The category for Doctor Who guest actors is exactly that: Doctor Who guest actors. By the time you've typed "Doctor Who g", the software will already be presenting you with that category, so click on its suggestion, press enter, and you're done. Again, I'm probably telling you something you already know, but as none of your recently-created articles are categorized, I just wanted to be sure you knew how to do it.
  • All articles about people should ideally be sorted in categories by the last name of the person. The recommended way of making this happen is to use a thing called "DEFAULTSORT". (DEFAULTSORT is preferred over adding a manual sort key to each category, because pages sometimes later get put into automatically-applied categories. Without a DEFAULTSORT, auto-cats will not properly alphabetize people's names.) Add the following to the bottom of your articles, and the system will tidy away the article without you having to think about it:
{{DEFAULTSORT:Ajala, David}}
  • Actors pages should have an external link to the relevant IMdb page, which can be accomplished easily through the use of one of two templates.
{{imdb|name/nm2916966/|David Ajala}}

or 

{{imdb name|id=2916966|name=David Ajala}}
  • As regards this specific article, you might want to note that Peter is a huge disambig page, and not a specific link to the character in question. Generally first-name-only links are discouraged, because it's very likely there will be other articles that could potentially have that name. Very common English language first names, like Peter and Mandy, should almost never be used to title an article, because there will be other people, both in-universe and out-, who will share the same first name.

Again, I know you're one of our more experienced editors, so I hope you don't take offense at these suggestions. It just worried me to see three articles with the same basic editing errors. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 15:03, April 9, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks and help??

I noticed you gave a warning to a user and would like to know how you did the box for it, any chance you could teach me?? thanks -- Michael Downey 10:59, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks -- Michael Downey 11:13, May 22, 2010 (UTC).

Hey, the vandalism template still has some bugs (in that it puts the code onto the page rather than the template), it's still usable, but I'd prefer it not rolled out until it's completely fixed. Thanks. --Tangerineduel 11:24, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
The vandalism template has been tweaked slightly, but is now working more in line with the other template check it out Template:Vandalism (as the usage and how it looks has changed slightly). Thanks. --Tangerineduel 13:56, May 22, 2010 (UTC)

What's Your Problem?

What is yourploblem with me? every page i do is always deleted or shot at by you?

Format for Individuals

Hey, I moved this to Tardis:Format for Individuals (a more correct title for what it is) but it seems you just created it again (I didn't create a redirect as nothing linked to it). Thanks. --Tangerineduel 16:47, June 3, 2010 (UTC)

Hey. I've had a look, and posted a longer response on the talk page for the article.
It's a good effort, though has some large issues. Trying to get a format down for an in-universe article is trickier than an out of universe articles. The story articles all follow pretty much the same layout so it's easy to lay down a standard of how those areas should be filled in.
In-universe articles are trickier because sometimes you're going to have lots of information and sometimes you're going to be struggling to reach a paragraph and may not even need to be organised under a 'biography' section. --Tangerineduel 11:54, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
Hey, I've re-written the page significantly, I also removed the delete and in use tags as it's changed significantly from when they were added. --Tangerineduel 17:09, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
No. Please don't take the page as a guide to go and change articles, it's a guide to how to write the articles, but it's not meant to constrain articles nor is it meant to retroactively apply to articles either, I used a wide range of articles as examples all with their own unique quirks. Unlike the other story articles this one is far more fluid. I'm considering moving the article to 'Guide to writing individuals articles' (or something along those lines (please don't move it, I'm currently working out ideas). Now that I've written this one I think I might be able to write similar guide articles for other in-universe topics that may be as sub'pages of a Tardis:Guides to writing sort of thing. So as we don't get them confused with formats. --Tangerineduel 17:17, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
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