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Could someone remove the 'Sarn' bit in the storynotes?
It's nothing to do with the planet. The scenes there were filmed in Ogmore, and one of the villages is called 'Sarn'. It's of no significance.79.69.89.103 00:55, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
Synopsis
Where is it from? DuduDoctor 18:26, March 30, 2010 (UTC)
--I agree, ive had to change this twice now. While the title is confirmed i havent seen anyplot details. Should we just keep changing it ?
- Please remember to sign all posts with
~~~~. Tardis1963 22:42, April 6, 2010 (UTC)
Redhead remark
The Dreamlord says 'The Doctor loves a Redhead' to Amy Pond referencing the Master in The End of Time saying 'Oh, he love's playing with Earth girls' in a reference to Donna Noble and Sarah Jane Smith.
Dream Lord or Nightmare Man ?
SJA series 4 has a Nightmare Man story. Could this be a coincidence or the same adversary as the rumoured Dream Lord in this episode? 86.26.137.154 08:40, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
In the next time trailer, the Dream Lord says something like 'you're the time lord, let's call me the dream lord' which implies that is not who / what he really is 86.26.137.154 07:34, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
It turns out that the 'Dream Lord' is actually the Doctor. Alpha111 19:08, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Due to the fact that Matt Smith will be in SJA series 4, it's possible Dream Lord could re-emerge as the 'Nightmare Man'. Don't see how as of yet though. Adam 148 20:44, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
Pregnant?
Is Amy pregnant with the Doctor's child?71.161.234.46 07:20, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
All we know is that Amy is shown to be pregnant. Considering the presumptive villian in this episode is a man called the Dream Lord, we can't take anything at face value, can we? We don't know if Amy is pregnant with Rory or The Doctor's child. We'll just have to wait and see (or wait for spoilers, as River would say!) Musedae 16:23, May 2, 2010 (UTC)
The trailer implies that the "future" Amy is just a dream. As she is seen with Rory, the assumption is that its his child (they've been married for 5 years). Jedman67 06:21, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
I agree. Remember I posted that a week ago. Actually, after I posted that, I rememebred that Pyria (gotta check her name) cursed the Time Lords with sterility, which is why they use the looms. Anyway, it could all be a dream, don't forget! Musedae 14:25, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
Unless it was mentioned onscreen, you can't take it at face value. Remember that Hartnell's granddaughter was with him in the TARDIS; the only mention of looms is in some of the novels - which have been known to take some liberties with canon. Jedman67 05:20, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
- Also in the next time trailer, Amy is pregnant in the village but not in the Tardis. Not so clear if Rory only has the ponytail in the village 86.26.137.154 07:31, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Rory (when he's "got" by Mrs Poggit): Take care of our baby.Jollygreen-giant 23:31, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
- Also in the begining of the episode Rory and Amy comment that they hadn't seen the Doctor in 5 years, the average human pregnancy is 9 months, this being wednesday now this is fairly irrelevant but worth mentioning IMO. ~---- Anon, 18:30, May 19, 2010 (GMT)
The Big Bang
If it is five years into Amy's future, what happened about the big bang that happened five years ago? Did the Doctor stop it or something like that? Who7 11:57, May 9, 2010 (UTC)
Perhaps Amy's future is just a dream, and her, the Doctor and Rory may are sleeping in the TARDIS a few hours after the end of "Vampire of Venice" as seen in the trailer. That could explain why Amy is not pregnant in the TARDIS and her 'heartbreaking choice' might be to choose between her little family dream, or the reality...we'll see... Sam122 15:37, May 10, 2010 (UTC)
Plaque
Regarding no. 11: (SPOILERS!)
TARDIS
TIME AND RELATIVE DIMENSION IN SPACE
BUILD SITE: GALLIFREY BLACKHOLE SHIPYARD
TYPE 40 BUILD DATE: 1963
AUTHORISED FOR USE BY QUALIFIED TIME LORDS ONLY
BY THE SHADOW PROCLAMATION
*Something that's too small for me to read*
Throan Loremaker 22:42, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
MISUSE OF THEFT OF ANY TARDIS WILL RESULT IN EXTREME PENALTIES AND PERMENANT EXILE
Unhari 21:22, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Now we know how the First Doctor earned his exile. Unhari 21:22, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
2016
The episode is actually set in 2016 becuse Amy appeers in season 32 in 201185.250.46.91 17:59, May 14, 2010 (UTC)
It could be in 2017 or above because Any might stay on doctor who for more than 2 seasons. Alpha111 19:06, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
The time when Amy and the Doctor parted ways in the "Upper Leadworth" world is all part of a dream with implanted memories, so has been made up essentially, it doesn't need to be accurate to the seasons that Karen is doing. TomJ 23:00, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
- Considering the whole thing was a dream while still in the TARDIS, none of it took place in 2015/16/17. DigiFluid 06:36, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
Entire episode inside the TARDIS?
Now, can we say that this entire episode took place inside the TARDIS? Although there were scenes filmed in different places, Amy, the Doctor and Rory weren't even there, they never left the TARDIS. So can we say that this episode took place entirely within the TARDIS? Mc hammark 20:38, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
Hadn't thought about that til you pointed it out but yeah I guess you're right. Carnivius Prime 20:49, May 15, 2010 (UTC)
Incorrect alien name
Can someone please amend Plot section as it incorrectly mentions the Ha'rik which are actually not mentioned in the episode, the Doctor identifies the aliens as Ecnodeen. Was this section all just copied from the wikipedia article, which I didn't think was allowed ? 86.26.137.154 08:44, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
I have changed the plot so it is Ecnodeen not Ha'rik. Alpha111 08:51, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
References
Hopefully I did it the right way (never created a new section before). 2 References I noticed: The "Dream Lord" calls the Doctor "last of the Time Lords" and "The oncoming storm" (about 10:30) and later he says to Amy "anything could happen" in a way that reminds me of Jackie Tyler saying the same thing to the ninth doctor in the episode "Rose".78.43.114.215 13:50, May 16, 2010 (UTC)
What about the remark about sofas that can read? Is that another Hitchhikers reference? 86.26.137.154 07:33, May 17, 2010 (UTC)
Production Error
I know the reason for the production error. Its because a stunt double was used when Rory was thrown on his back, so Arthur never got the mud on his back in the first place. You can see this in the Doctor Who Confidential for this episode. I don't know how to site a source, otherwise would have fixed this myself.
-I believe that, since the whole world was a dream, certain mistakes like these can be overseen. Why wouldn't they be able remove a mudstain in a dream?
Silven6 15:15, May 18, 2010 (UTC)
That's not really a reason. Tv shows and movies aren't shot in chronological order. You shoot them according to who is on the set and what the conditions are. It's entirely possible for two shots to have been shot on two separate days, in opposite order. Back and forth dialouge, for instance, is usually shot entirely from one side with a double filling in for the character not facing the camera, then again for the other direction. That way, you're not paying an actor to sit around on the set doing nothing.
Back to the "5 things to watch out for"
Someone said before about eyes being one of the things to look out for. And in this one the aliens show their eyes out of the old peoples' mouths! I think eyes may be another of the things to look out for. Anyone else? Mc hammark 12:23, May 19, 2010 (UTC)
Eyes are major:
TEH: Atraxi Eyes, Corner of your Eye
TBB: Crying (?)
VOTD: Zoom in on Eye Stalk
TTOA/FAS: Don't Look Into It's Eyes, Angel in Amy's Eye
VOV: ?
AC: Echodeen Eyes in the Mouths.
-Tom
Also in FAS when River is talking to The Doctor there is an eye moving on the screen behind her!OGREPOP 19:38, June 4, 2010 (UTC)
Why change it?
Why has the entire plot description and the profile screenshot been changed? The original was much more better. --Tidalwave11, just surfing the waves, three times a week 13:37, May 20, 2010 (UTC)
lawnmower thing
the scene were the Old people besiege Amy & Rory house (Homage on the Romero Zombie movies ?)
one of old lady swing a lawnmower over her head, is this a homage on Peter Jackson Movie Braindeath ?
were hero swing lawnmower aganst zombie besiege his house...--81.247.225.123 20:53, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
Custard?
In the begining of the plot synopsis it says Amy was stiring custard but in the episode I could have sworn I saw cupcakes on the bench & later on when she was licking the spoon it seemed to thick for custard.I think it was probobly icing for cupcakes.
116.250.51.26 20:47, May 30, 2010 (UTC)
Pollen?
I think that the pollen, being the 'real' baddies here, should be credited as an 'enemy' here. Thanx! BlueDalek 17:30, June 1, 2010 (UTC)
Wrench to cutters
Did anyone else notice that as the docotr hands amy the open wrench he hands Rory an Adjustable wrench, He then says his 'Don't beleive anything' and it cuts back to Rory and he is holding a pair of Cutters. I wonder if this means the prop guys messed up, Or if it was a subtle way of showing things change without people noticing.
I think it was on purpose. There seemed to be a lot of "slightly off" instances in the dream worlds to keep you guessing. Well, except the star, that was straight up absurdity and made me positive that both worlds were dreams.
I watched the scene : the Doctor never gave Rory an adjustable wrench, it was cutters all along.90.8.191.70 07:04, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
Main image
User:Skittles the hog and myself have yet another little discussion of what the main image should be. He wants this image and I want this image. Now, I don't like "his" image, it doesn't describe the episode that well. It's the frozen TARDIS. But where's Amy, we need her, the episode is mostly centered around her. Ironically, my image is when she makes her choice, by crashing the camper van. Although another thing is, Mr Hog did not upload this image, it was User:Ishdan. If you Sir, upload your own image suggestion for the main image of this article I would be very grateful to see it. Mine is in no way low quality, how is it? So, I... don't know. Should my image stay or should Sir Ishdan's stay? But in my opinion Skittles T Hog, upload your image. BroadcastCorp (talk | contribs) 15:32, September 3, 2011 (UTC)
