Howling:Midnight Mysteries
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For a start:
- Where did the entity learn the knock twice? (moreso, who did it copy it from?)
- Why did the entity show bloodlust for and desire to kill the Doctor?
- How did the entity get into the shuttle bus when there were was no open access?
- How did the entity make a huge dent in the shuttle wall, tear the cabin off, and rip the seats to sheads when it was incorperal?
- Why did the entity call itself he?
- What was the entity's purpose?
- How long was the entity waiting in the cold and the dark?
- Where did the entity really come from?
- Was the entity even born, or was it just... there?
- At what point did the entity get trapped on Midnight, and who did it/how did it happen?
- Who or what was the entity?
- Is the entity still out there? (well, the Doctor answered that with fearful silence- yes.)
These are questions that haunt me whenever I think about the entity. I mean, how did it make a big dent in the shuttle, tear the cabin away, and rip the seats the shreads when it was incorperal? How did it get inside? There was no way in, but it still got inside!
Another thing someone pointed out was... the entity learnt everything it copied, right? Before they even incountered the entity, it knew how to knock twice, and it knew how to try and open doors. It had to have learnt those two knocks somewhere, or from someone- perhaps the planet had been visited before by unfortunate victims? Another thing is the creature's pleasure in having a full-blood body it can control- it refers to how good it feels to be alive again. Be alive again? It had also said it had been waiting in the cold and the dark for a very long time- not forever. If it was waiting for a long time, where was the entity before it got trapped on the cold and dark surface of the planet?
Exactly whom brought the entity into the universe, or was it always there? It does refer to once having been alive, shows lust for having a full-blooded body, and calls itself he.
I once had a theroy that the entity wasn't even born, it was just this, well, entity. Some lonely conciounness living on a palnet never touched by life. Something never born, but just waiting and waiting for someone to arive. I once heard a creepy theory here that the entity wanted bodies... the wording is creepy
Or maybe Midnight is whatever you're afraid of. Because you never see it, your imagination goes wild that it may be something you have encountered before. Sky briefly panics that "she said she'd get me!" when the knocking continues. This indicates Sky thought the entity was her-ex girlfriend, or whoever from her like, coming back for revenge, and that the entity was the individual she feared would come get her. This may mean Midnight is whoever you make it to be, its your fear of what you can't see, it is literally the unknown.
When asked by Donna what the Doctor thought the Midnight entity was, he replies that he has no idea. When asked if he believes the entity is still out there, he looks at Donna with a deadly silence, followed by her saying, "Well, you better tell them, this lot." He says the planet should be left turning in silence. Clearly, nothing should disturb the entity.
And as I said earlier, Midnight learnt by copying... then where did it learn to knock twice? Something tells me it had encountered life before, and probably killed them. As much as we can gather, the entity was male, once corperal (describing having a body as coming back to life), had encountered life at least once before, was waiting for a very long time in the cold and the dark.
The entity was also seen briefly, simply as a shadow. This unknown shadow managed to tip the bus apart... Just what is it? Probably the most mysterious, if not powerful, enemy of the Doctor yet. I believe this was the first time in Doctor Who history where the Doctor had absolutely no idea what he was up against or what it was. Now, THAT is disutrbing... the Doctor knows so much, but the Midnight entity was the one thing he didn't understand. The entity was the first thing that truly scared the Doctor. Delton Menace 04:14, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
Delton menace, two questions
1.do you still think, that the Midnight Entity, is the beast?
2.if yes is the beast or the Midnight Entity going to be the main villan in series 5?
Part of me belives it is the Beast's essence, whatever remained of his conciounce when his body was destroyed. It's Midnight's references to once having had a body and throwing people out into the sun (the Beast mentioned bathing in the sun) that strike me as odd. Oh, and their ability to survive things that nothing ordinary can survive - blackhole and Midnight's x-tonic surface.
That, or the entity is one of the most deadliest creatures in the known Doctor Who universe, being able to copy and manipulate anyone it pleases, the entity that can survive anything. I don't know who I think the series 5 main villain will be, but I do see the Beast returning in the Moffat era. Moffat's writing nature is of dark stories and the like, and the Beast would make the perfect villain for someone who writes darker stories.
In the past series, there were many reference to the Beast, and demons. The latest reference wa sin The End of Time. Enemies do return, but the one I'm talking about can't be killed. Because the Beast was part of Whoniverse mythology, there will be at least some connected entity to him arrive at some point. Remember when the Doctor was exterminated? The location of where it happened had"GirdRererence 666" where he was exterminated. The Beast's number was in UNIT's corrected phone number in Planet of the Dead, too, and it also appeared in Doomsday.
It's a recurring number: whenever the Doctor or the world are in danger, the number 666 is always there. It's almost as if the Beast is causing every single world-threatening event that happens in the Doctor Who universe. On the Torchwood episode where Suzie commits murder, there are three tapes. What do the three tapes have? You guessed it: 666. The number pops up in Torchwood, as I said, too. Then in Children of Earth, he was directly mentioned, when a little girl says it wasn't as if they were possed by the Devil. And then inThe End of Time, a chruch scene dipicting God (the Beast's enemy) mentions how a demon fell from the sky and attacked the church. Notice all of this relgious stuff coming up lately? Delton Menace 20:34, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
Delton Menace, Do you think the Beast was behind the events of the Time War? 91.104.27.88 22:18, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
Not directly, but I think he influences all bad events throuhgout history. By that, I mean he is an evil god. He has the power to create hatred and insanity, make people kill, and he has that influence over the entire Doctor Who universe. That's why they call him Satan. He literally is the darkness in everyone's hearts. I believe when the Doctor met him, he knew what he was, he knew the Beast was everything negative.
Like he said, he himself said he was everything bad, beyond time, influenced everything bad in the known Whoniverse. I don't think people realise how powerful he is, the stonrgest entity in the Doctor Who univedrse. He doesn't need to be where and when- just his existence, the thought of him, influences throughout time and space. Delton Menace 00:06, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
Even if he is the strongest entity in the doctor who universe the doctor whipped his ass, easy.
^ No, he really didn't. He just got rid of his body. If you have the slightest bit of sense, you'll get that his influence makes him the stonrgest enemy of the entire known Doctor Who universe- he created evil, pain, and loss. Delton Menace 02:33, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
