Talk:TARDIS (The Two Doctors)

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There's really no indication at all given in The Two Doctors that the Second Doctor is using a different TARDIS. It shouldn't be referenced as a source for this page. Spreee ☎ 14:41, August 5, 2013 (UTC)Spreee

World Game reveals that it is a different TARDIS that he was using. We have no reason not to trust the story penned by Terrence Dicks, and thus the retcon stands fair. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 15:28, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
Hmm, I see that point... and guess the revised wording in the article now is okay, in that it only really uses Two Doctors to source the visit to Chimera. I'd still advocate for a change in the page name (as again, there's nothing in the televised story to suggest any other TARDIS was involved), but can already envision the counter-argument. Spreee ☎ 16:29, August 5, 2013 (UTC)Spreee
I really have no trife with a name change, it's up to the admins to decide if it's more appropriate to name it after the first story it appeared in or the first story that it was acknowledged in. OS25 (talk to me, baby.) 17:35, August 5, 2013 (UTC)

Deletion[[edit source]]

This page was deleted today because it's based on a false premise entirely. The Second Doctor is not using the World Game Type 97 TARDIS in The Two Doctors, and the source for that is World Game itself. The sequence of events is this:

  • Time Lords capture the Doctor and his Type 40 at the end of The War Games
  • The Celestial Intervention Agency makes him an offer he can't refuse, before the exile and imposed regeneration take place
  • He's sent on a mission to France with Serena. He's paired with her because she has been trained to operate a Type 97
  • The Type 97 is allowed to look like a police box to make the Doctor feel comfortable with it.
  • The Doctor brings the 97 back to Gallifrey at the conclusion of the story.
  • The CIA approve of his handling of the mission, despite Serena's death. They tell him they have another mission for him. This one, they claim, won't be very rough — just a diplomatic mission to see Dastari.
  • The Doctor agrees, but only on the condition that they give him his Type 40 back. The Time Lords agree, and even agree to give the old girl a complete overhaul and install the Stattenheim remote control because the Doctor's "earned it".
  • The Doctor places a second condition: that he be able to choose his own companion this time. He chooses Jamie. They say it's going to be tricky because of the memory thing, but they agree. The Doctor suggests they should change Jamie's memory to account for whomever he thinks is missing. He suggests they pluck him from a time when they're travelling with Victoria, but to implant the fiction that they've dropped Victoria off somewhere to study graphology. The CIA agree to all his terms.
  • They give him a few more details about what they're hoping he'll accomplish with Dastari, and the book closes with the Doctor briefly lamenting Serena but looking forward to seeing Jamie.

So, Dicks in no way means for us to think that the TARDIS in Two Doctors is anything but the Doctor's Type 40 TARDIS that we all know and love. Of course, Dicks hasn't really solved all the continuity problems inherent in The Two Doctors, and may have merely re-enforced one of the biggest. Baker's reaction to the Stattenheim remote control in Troughton's TARDIS is made even more indefensible by the ending to World Game. There really is no adequate explanation for why Baker reacts with such surprise to it; he should remember the gift, particularly as the CIA made such a big deal of the gifting of it.

Anyway, the article accompanying this talk obviously couldn't remain in the face of the evidence from the primary source. Sounds like someone was writing from "received wisdom" about the book rather than from actually reading the text.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍  03:38: Sun 08 Sep 2013

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