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It's getting a little heated around here.
OttselSpy25 wrote: If anything is speculation, saying that there's more than one DWU in this franchise is total speculation. There's no quotes to support that at all. In-universe or out, movies or video games.
Again, I think we've proven pretty easily that these are Daleks, the Daleks must be from a DWU, there's only one DWU in this franchise, that DWU is treated like the regular DWU, etc etc.
And that's a well-constructed argument.
TFD, you're saying that there's no evidence the universe they came from is, in fact, the same DWU we all know and love, or if it's some LEGO version like the LEGO Lord of the Rings universe, or Harry Potter. And fair enough: if we didn't have LEGO Dimensions as some degree of precedent to go on, we do sort of get the sense that since there exist in the franchise LEGO re-boots, perhaps the Daleks come from one as well. Rather importantly, though, Batman in this movie is not the same LEGO Batman from the super-successful series of video games. Even down that avenue, can we really say for sure that Voldemort comes from the LEGO Harry Potter games?
I'm not gonna lie, I'm hearing both sides. There's no solid evidence, I'm hearing, that the place the Daleks come from is the DWU, and yet there's no solid evidence, either, that there is an alternate LEGO DWU. Both of you see it as speculation to assume otherwise.
Thus spoke Amorkuz: First off, I think this discussion is being held at a rather high level with a clearly articulated and scrupulously argued thesis at the beginning, followed by arguments, counter-arguments, fact-finding incursions, interpretational essays and the like. I'm not saying this to pat myself or anyone else on the back. It's just a reminder that we are managing to have a meaningful conversation overall, despite our disagreements and occasional venting of steam.
^ And to all else said in that post. I'm always for the empathetic approach: We're all human here. Except me. I am a LEGO Dalek.
[T]here are at least two multiverses in play, DWU and LEGO ones
I mean, yeah. I hadn't thought of it that way, somehow. This all rests on whether the "real" Daleks of the DWU crossed over to the LEGO multiverse, or if they came from some part of the LEGO multiverse which is not the Doctor's universe, as we know it.
By the way, if it means anything at all to this thread, even back in the original LEGO Batman: The Videogame, you could find K9 in one of the levels, and ride around on him. Not actually sure how they had the licensing for that at the time, but it is there.
