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Doctor Loved Rose?
Nowhere on screen does the Doctor ever admit to being in love with Rose. This needs to come out of the article. Someone please fix it? 214.27.58.2talk to me 15:31, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
- I agree that their so-called love is debatable. Given The Doctor's mindset after the Time War, I don't believe he was in love with Rose. 75.141.226.87talk to me 21:24, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
The Tenth had gotten over that to a point, and he attempts to admit it in Journey's End, but is interrupted. Cult Of Skaro ☎ 21:28, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
Er...Does someone need to get up to date on their Who? Cult Of Skaro ☎ 17:38, January 3, 2013 (UTC)
He NEVER admitted it on screen...it is still fan speculation. Frankly, that belongs on the forums, not on the encylopedic page. On the pages, we need to stick with what has actually happened, not what some fans desire to happen. 214.27.58.2talk to me 07:50, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
No, it is NOT speculation. Unless passionate kissing and pining after her after she leaves and trying to say it in Doomsday doesn't count. Cult Of Skaro ☎ 15:01, January 5, 2013 (UTC)
The only time Ten and Rose kissed was when Cassandra kissed him. The "passionate kiss" you are likely referring to was between the meta-crisis creation, which was established on screen as not being exactly like Ten, either physically or emotionally. 180.94.85.2talk to me 02:16, January 6, 2013 (UTC)
Sorry, but Cult of Skaro is absolutely right, Ten attempts to say it at the end of Doomsday, but the TARDIS' cross-universal thingy cuts out so he fails, and Meta-Crisis Ten, who has the same memoires of the real Ten, completes the sentence in Journey's End and that is why Rosee and Meta-Crisis Ten kiss. MrSiriusBlack ☎ 21:07, January 12, 2013 (UTC)
Exactly...what Ten attempts to say is cut off...and not heard. He does not say anything on screen. Therefore, it is speculation by fans. Also, 180 above was me, just not logged in. Whosethebestwho ☎ 02:03, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
Okay...so just because he doesn't explicitly say right out, "I love you" but tries to, kisses her, even makes it clear that it's three words he wanted to say, even though there's no one with any DOUBT even that those words were "I love you," we can't include it because he doesn't say it right out. Right. Speculation. Ahem. Cult Of Skaro ☎ 02:15, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
Fact: Ten does not try to kiss Rose. Fact: Ten does not state that he loves Rose. Any deviation from those facts is speculation. You may believe, in the bottom of your heart that they had passionate relationship...you may desire above all else for that to be true. But it is speculation, pure and simple. Whosethebestwho ☎ 02:25, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
He attempts to say it. It's clearly implied that he's trying to say it. Or do you have some secret theory on what he actually tried to say? Cult Of Skaro ☎ 02:30, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
- How do you know he's trying to say it though? I could say that his leaving Rose behind twice and his relationship with Reneitte shows that he didn't love Rose. As long as it's open for speculation, it's not allowed on in-universe pages. Shambala108 ☎ 03:57, January 18, 2013 (UTC)
Wow. I can;'t believe I manbaged yto kjeep cool after reading the thickness above. No, The Doctor didn't have feelings at all for Reinette, she loved him. It is too darn obvious that The Doctor loved Rose and that was what he was trying to say, so keep it in the article. MrSiriusBlack ☎ 21:05, January 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Not sure which posts you're replying to, but speculation is not allowed on this wiki (see Forum:Hypothesis and speculation and Forum:Speculation - What is and what isn't?). If you don't have an in-universe source for the information, it can't be added. You might also want to check out Tardis:No personal attacks as well. Shambala108 ☎ 02:13, January 22, 2013 (UTC)
You utter IDIOT! Want a valid source? WATCH Doomsday (TV story)DOOMSDAY]] AND JOURNEY'S END! THIS IS A VALID POINT, LISTEN TO THIS LOWLY ANON USER, PLEASE!!! Apologies for the insult and no offence, but really, I PROTEST against this STUPIDITY! Get up to date on your who or leave Tardis Data Core, Shambala! 94.9.1.78talk to me 21:31, January 23, 2013 (UTC)
- I'll reiterate what Shambala said to MrSiriusBlack: "speculation is not allowed on this wiki (see Forum:Hypothesis and speculation and Forum:Speculation - What is and what isn't?). If you don't have an in-universe source for the information, it can't be added." While it may appear to you that it's obvious, according to the rules of this wiki, it's speculation. Yes, I will agree, it is implied, and according to my own opinion, he did love her but couldn't quite express it, but it is never explicitly stated so we can't include it. Unless the Doctor ever talks specifically about how he loved Rose (which is unlikely at this point, but not impossible), any information on his emotions and feelings for Rose is purely speculative. I'd recommend you base your argument on policy, as apposed to your own personal opinions. And also as Shambala stated: You might want to check out Tardis:No personal attacks as well. SmallerOnTheOutside ☎ 00:13, January 24, 2013 (UTC)
- Incivility will not be allowed on our talk pages. Attack the point, not the person. 94.9.1.78 has just earned a permanent ban. MrSiriusBlack: you are right on the edge of being blocked for your comments, and have escaped merely because your phrasing can be construed as an attack on the point. Nevertheless, no one likes to have their opinions described as "thick". The English language has a huge vocabulary. Please use other words to describe displeasure.
- All participants to this conversation should read and abide by Tardis:No personal attacks. Now.