Summer Falls
In Summer Falls, the novel based on the in-story book, the Doctor is known as the Curator and says "magic is cool". Do you think we should add some of that stuff on this page? It seems suspiciously similar.. ---Knight
Other Versions of The Doctor
Surely The Curator is a similar manifestation of The Doctor to The Watcher? An echo of his conciousness sent by a future version of The Doctor to help/remind himself of what he needs to do. --86.21.136.74talk to me 18:26, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
Well... there's really nothing in the narrative to suggest that. So that's more a Howling discussion than anything. --Constonks 19:47, November 24, 2013 (UTC)
Elizabeth's letter
In Queen Elizabeth I's letter to the Doctor, which is delivered to the Eleventh Doctor by Kate Stewart early in the film, the Queen appoints the Doctor "curator to the under gallery where deadly danger to England is locked away". 147.194.20.157talk to me 00:15, November 25, 2013 (UTC)
- There's no evidence that Baker is the curator to the Under Gallery, though. The establishing shot and the changed environment visually suggests they're in the National Gallery proper.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 18:03: Fri 29 Nov 2013
- Apart from it being more reasonable, compare the room deco and styling of where the painting sits in the end scene, the same white-walled rooms shared by the other Time Lord 3d paintings, to where it was at the beginning of the serial when it was brought out into the regular gallery to demonstrate Elizabeth I's "credentials". The normal location of Gallifrey Falls No More is the Under-Gallery to which Tom Baker's character is referred to as the Curator. -- philosoraptor 107.3.161.174talk to me 00:57, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
- If he were the Doctor, and were this the Under-Gallery, then Kate Stewart would not have logically gone on some hunt for Eleven, would she? His being the Doctor would have obviated the need for Stewart to grab the TARDIS with her helicopter and present Elizabeth's message to Eleven. Surely, if he were the Doctor, Kate would have handed over Liz 1's message to him ages ago. He's the curator in spite of the Liz 1 message, not because of it — so logically he's not the curator of the Under Gallery, but of the gallery proper.
- Apart from it being more reasonable, compare the room deco and styling of where the painting sits in the end scene, the same white-walled rooms shared by the other Time Lord 3d paintings, to where it was at the beginning of the serial when it was brought out into the regular gallery to demonstrate Elizabeth I's "credentials". The normal location of Gallifrey Falls No More is the Under-Gallery to which Tom Baker's character is referred to as the Curator. -- philosoraptor 107.3.161.174talk to me 00:57, December 6, 2013 (UTC)
- Moreover, Gallifrey Falls No More was in the main gallery at the beginning of the episode — a gallery which, as can be seen in the background of some shots as 11 and Clara walk up to the painting, has rooms that are white-walled. (5'11") But you don't need to scour those shots for proof; the room in which the 10/Liz 1 painting exists is not in the Under Gallery and yet it has white walls. (19'10") Not that white walls are terribly unexpected in a gallery. Therefore, there's nothing in the script or the visuals which suggest that the Tom Baker scene must be in the Under Gallery, and thus nothing to make us think that he's taken up the position offered by Liz 1 to "the Doctor".
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 15:10: Fri 27 Dec 2013
- Moreover, Gallifrey Falls No More was in the main gallery at the beginning of the episode — a gallery which, as can be seen in the background of some shots as 11 and Clara walk up to the painting, has rooms that are white-walled. (5'11") But you don't need to scour those shots for proof; the room in which the 10/Liz 1 painting exists is not in the Under Gallery and yet it has white walls. (19'10") Not that white walls are terribly unexpected in a gallery. Therefore, there's nothing in the script or the visuals which suggest that the Tom Baker scene must be in the Under Gallery, and thus nothing to make us think that he's taken up the position offered by Liz 1 to "the Doctor".
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