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Dimensions in Time thread
I see you like your invalid sources, perhaps you might like to take a look at this thread http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Thread:211495 just here. 82.3.146.201talk to me 18:09, February 25, 2017 (UTC)
Questions
Hello! I was to first off thank you so much for contributing so many fine images to this wikia. Article illustrations are so important, and invalid stories are so often left to the side. I do have a few questions about the stories you've presented, since it appears that you're the only person who has seen many of these.
My first question comes down to the Facebook-only Zygon segments. How much do these adaptations entail? Audio, narration? If so, one could likely make the case that the stories are very much novelisations, and thus should not be invalid. Of course we would need to have a discussion about this, and I am just inquiring on the details of the story in case we ever want to go down the route.
The one that certainly hooks me the most is Christmas Past, which is the second LEGO product to feature DWU characters, and it's also the only DWU Lego product to be produced through stop-frame animation. My question is this: have you seen the suggested original upload which was not part of a collage? The one that was actually called Christmas Past? Surely you must get your info from somewhere.
If you have, what do Clara and the Doctor watch on the TV in the original? The answer to this could be very important, as it could decide if the story is declared an advertisement or not. If they watch an ad, then it simply can't be valid according to our policy (we've, at one point or another, come to the conclusion that ads are not stories). But if they watch something else, then it's a whole other ball-park.
If you see any other story where you think there's the case to be make for the story to be valid despite it being a "sketch" or such and such, hit me up with that info and we can chat over it. OS25 (Talk) 22:18, March 13, 2017 (UTC)
Re: images
Hi! You can always go to Special:Recentchanges to find the specific reasons for deletions. I've deleted a bunch of images over the last couple of weeks, but I believe that the ones I did recently were mostly >100kb, when we require images to be <100kb. I also deleted one that had no license, but I can't remember whose it was. Shambala108 ☎ 01:43, March 15, 2017 (UTC)
Infobox Merchandise
Heya :) Thanks for your recent edits. :) Just wanted to let you know, though, that {{Infobox Merchandise}} really isn't meant to be used the way you're using it. It's supposed to be for toys, games, wearables, edibles even -- but not for ranges of narratives (or ads or near-narratives).
I'll soon be introducing a new infobox for ranges, but understand that in the past we've implicitly agreed not to have a infobox on pages like Doctor Who and Torchwood. And I'm still not super-convinced it's a great idea on the novel ranges, cause names like BBC Eighth Doctor Adventures aren't actually official.
But that's maybe a slightly different question. Until the new infobox comes in, though, please stop using {{Infobox Merchandise}} for describing any sort of narrative/video/advertising range. Thanks! :)
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 18:19: Mon 24 Apr 2017
New editor bug
Yeah, I can confirm it's definitely weird and a bug. But the code that does that little thing isn't local to Tardis. So I'll have to go on a hunt elsewhere at Fandom to figure out what's going on. It's definitely on the list, if a little lower down.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 19:07: Mon 24 Apr 2017
Crossover madness
Okay, let's do this. First of all, there is a very useful page Crossover explaining the concept and giving many examples.
That characters who have set foot in DWU once should not be covered in all their other appearances is detailed in the last post/closing remarks of CzechOut on Sleeze Brothers.
Then there was a follow up with several examples of gratuitous appearances of characters from other properties, also from CzechOut. I'll just copy it here and create some links: Some of our users here at Tardis have been trying for a month or two to make some kind of rule that "if a character is in a DWU property, then prior or subsequent appearances are also in the DWU. But there is no such rule in T:VS. And, in fact, there's precedence to suggest otherwise, as with Sherlock Holmes, Dracula, Jar Jar Binks, and a whole host of others.
The other threads are still open and either too long or a bit too heated. So I'll not quote them here. I do realise that I somehow did not find a clear statement that a crossover character meeting the Doctor should be valid. But this should immediately follow from T:VS and from the multiple precedents. Hope this helps. Amorkuz ☎ 23:30, April 27, 2017 (UTC)
Crossover madness
When in doubt, it's always a good idea to ask. As for the closing of the thread, it should be done by another admin, one who did not participate in the discussion. It's not a problem for the thread to stay open though: the stories were explicitly ruled to be valid after another (very short) debate. By T:BOUND, they remain valid until ruled otherwise. In other words, despite our thread remaining open, there is no problem editing the stories. Amorkuz ☎ 21:58, April 30, 2017 (UTC)
The Big Bang Theory
Hi, don't worry. I did see that. But Inclusion debates is specifically intended for discussions of validity. Strictly speaking, this thread was off-topic. Such questions should properly be discussed in the Panopticon.
I was interrupted in the process of writing the closing remarks, so left this secondary concern without explicit response. Sorry about that. I will add it to the thread.
Let me, by way of apology, give a more detailed answer to you personally. But essentially the answer is present on the thread. OttselSpy25 perfectly summed up the practice of the wiki: "We can't have a page on every cultural reference to Doctor Who..." This accurately describes the policy of the wiki regarding cultural references.
First of all, an extended cultural reference is still a cultural reference. Whether a story (SitL in this case) is mentioned by name, discussed contentwise or shown onscreen, it is still the same story. There is no material difference between Sheldon saying that he watched SitL and Sheldon actually watching SitL onscreen. In fact, I would say that the former is of more importance since it is almost inevitably the primary focus of the mise-en-scène, whereas a working TV set with SitL on can easily serve as a background to something else.
Secondly, you say yourself that it is unreasonable to cover the whole episode of TBBT, just the part of it with SitL. But it has been a long-standing policy of the wiki to only consider full stories. For valid stories, this is formulated explicitly as the first of the four little rules. But the same principle clearly applies to invalid stories too. After all, given the power to edit out inconvenient portions, one could make almost any story valid. Take, for instance, Thread:209691. If one could remove all features of Chronotis that come into conflict with Shada, the objection of AeD and the final ruling based on it would not have made sense.
In fact, if anything, the coverage of TBBT on Cultural references to the Doctor Who universe should be compactified and consolidated. It is more than adequate and an interwiki link w:c:bigbangtheory:sheldon will always be more informative than any page created on this wiki.
For all these reasons, this proposal wouldn't have merit on the Panopticon. Amorkuz ☎ 22:29, May 5, 2017 (UTC)
Capital images
Hi, I think the simplest solution is for you to reupload the images with extension .jpg. I'll delete that .JPG ones. Thanks for not ruining the table. Amorkuz ☎ 20:23, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
Thanks
Thanks for correcting my mistake. Amorkuz ☎ 17:48, May 13, 2017 (UTC)
No real world
Hi, I've noticed that you're uploading and putting on pages images that were flashing, usually without context, in the Pyramid and in Monks' broadcasts. I would like to remind you of T:NO RW. In short, you cannot identify a person by the image based on your real-world knowledge. In order to put those images on pages, you need either to use the context (like in the case of Neil Armstrong, where the event is identified by the narrator and there is enough prior DWU information to understand who is in the spacesuit) or you need to compare the image with images of the same person that were featured in the DWU before. In the latter case, however, the new image is in most cases simply redundant in the presence of a superior image. A good example is your image of "Gagarin", which is so fuzzy that it would have been impossible to tell whether it is really him even if other images existed.
I would appreciate if you remove those images that are based on your real-world knowledge rather than DWU information from pages. Thank you in advance. Amorkuz ☎ 08:21, June 8, 2017 (UTC)
Categories
Hey, I see that you recently added a category to Category:Cybermen which one would likely see on the page Cyberman. This will not do for a very specific reason.
The point of sub-categories is that it makes placements on pages less redundant. So there's no need to put both Category:Third Doctor TVA comic stories and Category:TVA comic stories on COMIC: The Celluloid Midas. What this means is that every single category branching back all the way through starting with Category:Third Doctor TVA comic stories must apply to said page. This is why Category:11D comic stories does not feature Category:Eleventh Doctor comic stories as a sub-category, as there is at least one 11D comic stories which does not feature the Eleventh Doctor.
Now the problem with pages like Category:Sarah Jane Smith and Category:The Master is that people tend to mistakenly add categories like Category:Companions of the Doctor and Category:Individual Time Lords to them. What this means is that a page like Bubble Shock! end up indirectly being within Category:Companions of the Doctor, or a page like Chang Lee ends up within Category:Individual Time Lords. Thus, for most categories dedicated to sorting other categories by species or person, the only category that can be placed on those pages is Category:Catalogue of Life.
As pages like Telos and Cyber-megatron bomb are within Category:Cybermen, it will never be proper to place Category:Cyborg species within said sub-category. OS25 (Talk) 17:16, June 14, 2017 (UTC)
- Yea, I tried to go around fixing this up where I've seen it, but I think there's a bigger issue at play. I think that most categories that end in "x species" should be renamed. For instance, Bill Potts would fit within Category:Humanoids. She would not fit within Category:Humanoid species. But in the case of something like Category:Cybermen at least, there is no case to be made for keeping the species categories. OS25 (Talk) 17:43, June 14, 2017 (UTC)
- Oh, quick tip! If you're going to a link to a category put a : before the word Category. So [[:Category:Cybermen]] links as Category:Cybermen without adding the category Cybermen. OS25 (Talk) 17:52, June 14, 2017 (UTC)
Blocked for plagiarism
Hey, a number of admin have grown concerned over your recent additions surrounding things from the so-called "Leekley Bible". It appears to us as if you may have simply cut and pasted copy directly from Shannon Sullivan's website. This is strictly disallowed under T:THEFT. Worse, T:THEFT#Non-CC-BY-SA sources specifically names Shanon Sullivan's site as one that shouldn't be copied. Shannon's site isn't published under the same kind of license Tardis is, and their content isn't freely available for us to copy.
Therefore, just as universities will come down on you hard if you plaigiarise, so, too, must we. Your recent work will be audited, and probably largely removed. And you will be prevented from editing until 23 November 2017. Please note that several admin arrived at this decision, jointly -- both in terms of determining that plaigiarism occurred and what the length of the block should be.
czechout<staff /> ☎ ✍ 20:03: Fri 23 Jun 2017
Now we are six hundred
Please refrain from adding material from sources whose validity has not been established to the in-universe parts of pages. Amorkuz ☎ 07:18, November 25, 2017 (UTC)
- Clarification: All poems in the book are invalid until their validity is decided by inclusion debate(s). Thank you for alerting me about that page. I will deal with it. Also please reread Tardis:Canon policy that clearly states that there is no canon on this wiki. Amorkuz ☎ 08:35, November 25, 2017 (UTC)
Out of curiosity ... why? On what grounds are you questioning this validity? T:VS says
- Most Doctor Who-related stories so obviously pass our rules that you don't really have to even think about it. The chances are very good that if a story bears an official logo from any of our covered television shows — and an appropriate copyright declaration — it'll be a valid source.
and that situation surely applies to Now We Are Six Hundred. Isn't this more of a "valid until proven otherwise" scenario? – N8 ☎ 14:42, November 25, 2017 (UTC)