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Talk:The Vanquishers (TV story)

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Revision as of 01:32, 7 December 2021 by Danochy (talk | contribs)

Companions

Okay, let's not turn this into an edit war; User:BananaClownMan and I disagree on whether Inston-Vee Vinder should be counted as a companion. Following his removal from the field (alongside that of several other, in my own opinion more debatable characters), I said that —

Vinder was officially Invited Into The TARDIS some episodes ago; he's definitely a companion hereUser:Scrooge MacDuck

BCM has now removed him again with the rationale:

Except Vinder spends little time with the Doctor and the TARDIS in this story, his role not being dissimilar to the Children of Time in "The Stolen Earth"; they contribute to the Doctor's efforts, but in an independent fashionUser:BananaClownMan

My answer to this is that Yaz and Dan also largely contribute in a Children-of-Timeish fashion; the Doctor is having her own adventure (three of them, in fact) and Yaz and Dan spend a significant amount of time with Jericho and Williamson, rather than as the Doctor's sidekick. Heck, Dan needs reinviting into the TARDIS at the end, if that's not proof that he wasn't really in the companion role anymore up till that point, I don't know what is!

Thus: since we obviously want to list Dan and Yaz anyway, I believe we should also list Vinder.

Thoughts, BCM, anyone? Scrooge MacDuck 23:10, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

I have to say that I think Yaz and Dan are the only companions this series. Vinder is no more a companion than Jericho, Claire, Bel, and the rest. RadMatter 23:14, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
I'd have to agree that I don't think Vinder is a companion. Yaz and Dan aren't that involved with the Doctor in this story, admittedly, but they're her regular travelling companions so I wouldn't say it's quite the same situation. Jack "BtR" Saxon 23:17, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
Agreed with Rad and Jack. I wouldn't have called Dan a companion either if he hadn't joined the TARDIS at the end (although he was always going to). From a marketing perspective, I recall Vinder being introduced as a recurring character while Dan was introduced as a companion straight off the bat. So we know the intent as well. Danochy 01:32, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
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