Delete/Validity
This is a trailer, not a narrative. It's different then Shadows and that's why I put the delete tag. Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived ☎ 10:57, September 6, 2020 (UTC)
- At worst that means this should be invalid, like Ace Returns! (webcast), but not necessarily deleted. That being said, this page was created as valid by an admin, User:OncomingStorm12th, so I suggest you get your facts right. This has emphatically not been termed a trailer by Arcbeatle, who have instead dubbed it an "overture" in the YouTube description. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 11:00, September 6, 2020 (UTC)
- I completely concur Scrooge MacDuck, except I think that this should never be invalid, due to the precedent set by the Tardisode series. Epsilon the Eternal ☎ 11:03, September 6, 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, brevity in itself is not really reason for invalidity. On top of the great Tardisodes precedent brought by User:Scrooge MacDuck, we have Vrs a (literally) one-sentence story, which has also been created as valid from the beginning. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 17:31, September 6, 2020 (UTC)
- "Narrative" just means if things happen with sort of the loosest sense of continuity following them. (Fictional reference works are non-narrative in that things aren't happening, they're describing things that ostensibly already happened.) In this trailer/webcast are things happening? Najawin ☎ 18:25, September 6, 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah, brevity in itself is not really reason for invalidity. On top of the great Tardisodes precedent brought by User:Scrooge MacDuck, we have Vrs a (literally) one-sentence story, which has also been created as valid from the beginning. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 17:31, September 6, 2020 (UTC)
- I completely concur Scrooge MacDuck, except I think that this should never be invalid, due to the precedent set by the Tardisode series. Epsilon the Eternal ☎ 11:03, September 6, 2020 (UTC)
- A Cyberon appears in a dark, wet alley, it turns, and it attacks something off screen.
- No less narrative than the Tardisodes, Vrs, Untitled, etc. Epsilon the Eternal ☎ 18:46, September 6, 2020 (UTC)
- Exactly. (Clarification to my prior comment, a fictional reference work is perhaps better understood as describing "the furniture of the world" than just events that already happened.) Najawin ☎ 19:07, September 6, 2020 (UTC)
- If I may play devil's advocate then, why is this valid but say Genetics of the Daleks, which does pretty much the exact same thing as this, not valid? StevieGLiverpool ☎ 23:24, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Big Finish explicitly calls it a Promo. Najawin ☎ 23:34, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Surely that shouldn't bypass Tardis:Valid sources Rule 1: Only stories count, right? Are there not instances where sources aren't valid simply because they aren't a narrative? As such this also isn't a story, it's just a Cyberon appearing. StevieGLiverpool ☎ 01:11, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
- Big Finish explicitly calls it a Promo. Najawin ☎ 23:34, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- If I may play devil's advocate then, why is this valid but say Genetics of the Daleks, which does pretty much the exact same thing as this, not valid? StevieGLiverpool ☎ 23:24, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
- Exactly. (Clarification to my prior comment, a fictional reference work is perhaps better understood as describing "the furniture of the world" than just events that already happened.) Najawin ☎ 19:07, September 6, 2020 (UTC)