Things removed from article[[edit source]]
Technical Manager[[edit source]]
When I encountered it, article said,
- ...worked on the 1963 version of Doctor Who as a Technical Manager co-ordinating the the studio and film contributions to the programme.
Never heard of the position or of him in the role. Far as I know, he had only brief contact with the programme, sharing lighting duties on The Highlanders. If anyone can provide a reference for this, it can go back in. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 17:15, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
Technical Managers at the BBC had two duties - as TM2 level they were, indeed, responsible for co-ordinating the studio and film contributions but as a TM1 they were responsible for lighting the show - all this long before the term Lighting Director or Designer had been invented or credited. 91.125.169.111talk to me 15:32, January 21, 2012 (UTC)
Generation Game, operas[[edit source]]
Article also included:
- He went on to become a Lighting Director specialising in music and Light Entertainment programmes. His credits include many Ballets and Opera items for the 'Gala Performance' series. The ballet 'Firebird' was made in the biggest studio at Television Centre, and the final scene was memorable because the final shot developed to show the full height and length of the studio - something that had not been seen up till that time. He worked with many of the world famous ballet dancers in studio productions of note. He was honoured in America for his work on an Operatic programme.
I can find no evidence of any of this. I don't know what "Firebird" is, nor do I know what kind of honor he got in America. Google, wikipedia and imdb searches are drawing blanks. If we can establish these facts through citation, they can go back in article, though in a heavily edited form. The bit about the final scene being "memorable" really isn't important to our perspective. We don't often go into that kind of detail about non-DW unless it's related to other DW cast or crew, or unless it resulted in a prestigious award for the person.
Article went on to say:
- At the other end of the entertainment scale he was Lighting Director on 'The Generation Game' for a number of years. He worked with producer Yvonne Littlewood on many 'music' programs including "The World of Music", Pet Clark, Val Doonican, Nana Mouskuri and many others. Some of the Two Ronnies series also added to the variety of programmes lit by Ken MacGregor.
Can't at all prove he worked on GG. Puting "Ken MacGregor" +"Generation Game" into Google literally only gives this article. It's certainly not on his IMDb list, but IMDb have very sketchy credits for GG. So, again, we need proof. Cannot establish the existence of a programme called "The World of Music". CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 17:41, January 11, 2011 (UTC)
Name[[edit source]]
Problem with a guy who only worked on a serial that is now completely missing is that we don't actually know how he was credited on Doctor Who. He probably wasn't credited at all, though, cause lighting guys didn't begin to be credited until the Pertwee era. So, we have to go on evidence from the rest of his career, where he's definitely a "Mac", not a "Mc". I therefore moved the article (especially since every revision of this article has used "Mac" consistently in the body of the article. I still think we should leave a redirect, though, as multiple Doctor Who sources go with "McGregor". Thus most Doctor Who fans will probably be looking for McGregor. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 17:15, January 11, 2011 (UTC)