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I mentioned above that in Legacy of The Daleks the Doctor clearly knows that the Delgado Master had one regeneration left before it was used up on Tersurus, i even included the quote. It spells out that Delgado is on his 12th life and not his 13th, given the novels are a reference point. I haven't misquoted, i promise ;-) [[Special:Contributions/86.25.29.82|86.25.29.82]]<sup>[[User talk:86.25.29.82#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:21, July 15, 2012 (UTC) | I mentioned above that in Legacy of The Daleks the Doctor clearly knows that the Delgado Master had one regeneration left before it was used up on Tersurus, i even included the quote. It spells out that Delgado is on his 12th life and not his 13th, given the novels are a reference point. I haven't misquoted, i promise ;-) [[Special:Contributions/86.25.29.82|86.25.29.82]]<sup>[[User talk:86.25.29.82#top|talk to me]]</sup> 18:21, July 15, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:But you have ''totally'' mischaracterized. There's no doubt that Susan causes and witnesses the "transformation" of Delgado into Beevers/Pratt. There's no ''regeneration'' that happens there at all. ''Legacy'' is the very ''basis'' for calling the two versions the same. You need to reread the passages as a whole — not concentrate on one ''very'' out of context sentence. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} <span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">21:43: Sun 15 Jul 2012 </span> | :But you have ''totally'' mischaracterized. There's no doubt that Susan causes and witnesses the "transformation" of Delgado into Beevers/Pratt. There's no ''regeneration'' that happens there at all. ''Legacy'' is the very ''basis'' for calling the two versions the same. You need to reread the passages as a whole — not concentrate on one ''very'' out of context sentence. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} <span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">21:43: Sun 15 Jul 2012 </span> | ||
I certainly have read it all, quite a few times, and in all honestly there's nothing in the Susan V Master passages which contradicts the idea that he has One Regeneration left, as the Doctor comments in the quote above. In fact all we have is... | |||
"There was no respite for him now, no way to regenerate from such a death." | |||
...but this is narrative, it's not personal to the Master and not his thoughts, as it is soon followed by... | |||
"It was over. The Transmuter was destroyed, the Master dead." | |||
So you can see that, if anything, this is what Susan believes. She believes he is now dead and assumes no-one could regenerate from such a death, but he survived. No suggestion at all that the Master was already on his 13th life. In fact, in the whole expanded media range of Doctor Who there is only one comment that gives us an idea of where the Delgado incarnation fell, and i've quoted that in the thread above this one. | |||
So it really should be looked into more, perhaps others could read through Legacy of the Daleks themselves? It's just a suggestion, I don't want to cause any undue hassle or upset.[[Special:Contributions/86.9.234.213|86.9.234.213]]<sup>[[User talk:86.9.234.213#top|talk to me]]</sup> 16:56, July 16, 2012 (UTC) | |||