Talk:The Angels Take Manhattan (TV story) (edit)
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So where and when did the Doctor pick up this detective novel? Was there a line that explained this? Apparently, this book has magical powers and it seems odd that he would be reading a pretty cheesy detective story by accident. [[Special:Contributions/69.125.134.86|69.125.134.86]]<sup>[[User talk:69.125.134.86#top|talk to me]]</sup> 23:01, April 2, 2013 (UTC) | So where and when did the Doctor pick up this detective novel? Was there a line that explained this? Apparently, this book has magical powers and it seems odd that he would be reading a pretty cheesy detective story by accident. [[Special:Contributions/69.125.134.86|69.125.134.86]]<sup>[[User talk:69.125.134.86#top|talk to me]]</sup> 23:01, April 2, 2013 (UTC) | ||
: He says he's given up asking how things get into his pockets. I'd say there are at least two possibilities. River could later make sure it got there, to preserve the timeline. The TARDIS could have used a [[Block Transfer Computation]] to put it there, as she'd know he'd need it to save River and Rory. The Silence could have planted it, trying to get him emotional again. Probably plenty of other ways, but no narrative evidence for any. Just pointing out that it's not necessarily an error, and they did address it in dialogue. (Also, it pretty awesomely points out that he really would be attracted to a woman like River even if it wasn't her, specifically.) --[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:24, April 3, 2013 (UTC) | : He says he's given up asking how things get into his pockets. I'd say there are at least two possibilities. River could later make sure it got there, to preserve the timeline. The TARDIS could have used a [[Block Transfer Computation]] to put it there, as she'd know he'd need it to save River and Rory. The Silence could have planted it, trying to get him emotional again. Probably plenty of other ways, but no narrative evidence for any. Just pointing out that it's not necessarily an error, and they did address it in dialogue. (Also, it pretty awesomely points out that he really would be attracted to a woman like River even if it wasn't her, specifically.) --[[User:ComicBookGoddess|ComicBookGoddess]] [[User talk:ComicBookGoddess|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:24, April 3, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::I just don't get the book. What came first, River writing the book or the events in the book occurring? Because one of those things had to happen first. It must be River writing the book because the book was there for the Doctor to read. But it was only after the events occurred that River sat down to write the book. If she didn't write the book, would that have negated the events in this storyline because the book wouldn't have existed? | |||
:::And I don't understand why it is impossible for The Doctor to visit Amy & Rory but not River because she obviously gives her a copy of the manuscript. And if she found an indirect means to get it to her (mail, drop off, etc.), why would this New York destroying paradox affect both The Doctor and River? The paradox was that Rory couldn't die twice. It had nothing to do with either one of the Time Lords. | |||
:::I think it was just a bad plot twist to explain why we wouldn't be seeing Amy (Karen Gillan) in future episodes. They could have just had The Doctor visit off-screen and not in televised episodes. A big stinking plot hole for contractual reasons. | |||