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something that i think is worth noting during the conversation when hurt is revealed and hen he turns around...he never comes across to me like an evil character not even evil but he thinks he is doing good...rather he looks remorsefull and a rather tragic character(which is supported in dialogue really) but the look on his face is really sad and doesnt really suppport the theory of valeyard or anger like 9 after the time war.......its more like he had to do something that goes against his core belief his life long vow and he knew he was going to be hated and dispised for it but had no choice ...he is know to the doctor as almost like a traitor but put in the situation hurt knew he had no choice but to do what he did and face the cosequence ............he sound alot like the person that the doctor was sacred that he would become[[Special:Contributions/87.83.10.218|87.83.10.218]]<sup>[[User talk:87.83.10.218#top|talk to me]]</sup> 09:38, May 24, 2013 (UTC) | something that i think is worth noting during the conversation when hurt is revealed and hen he turns around...he never comes across to me like an evil character not even evil but he thinks he is doing good...rather he looks remorsefull and a rather tragic character(which is supported in dialogue really) but the look on his face is really sad and doesnt really suppport the theory of valeyard or anger like 9 after the time war.......its more like he had to do something that goes against his core belief his life long vow and he knew he was going to be hated and dispised for it but had no choice ...he is know to the doctor as almost like a traitor but put in the situation hurt knew he had no choice but to do what he did and face the cosequence ............he sound alot like the person that the doctor was sacred that he would become[[Special:Contributions/87.83.10.218|87.83.10.218]]<sup>[[User talk:87.83.10.218#top|talk to me]]</sup> 09:38, May 24, 2013 (UTC) | ||
87, "...he never comes across to me like an evil character...": Exactly. What he did may have been wrong. It may be that he ought to have known at the time that it was wrong. But he at least '''thought''' he had no choice, even if he now realises there actually was another course of action he ought to have taken. He might have acted hastily & discovered too late that he didn't have the full facts, so that whatever he did wasn't necessary, after all. "Remorseful and ... tragic" is how I saw him, too, certainly '''not''' High Five City's "brutal horrific one track minded warrior" or anything remotely like it. (I was 89 earlier.) --[[Special:Contributions/2.96.31.103|2.96.31.103]]<sup>[[User talk:2.96.31.103#top|talk to me]]</sup> 11:19, May 24, 2013 (UTC) | |||