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Has anyone considered the possibility that he's the Meta-Crisis Doctor? As we know, he committed genocide, much to The Doctor's dismay, and he also ages as a Human does. It's all a bit timey-wimey, but there's only one version of Rose that could be in the 50th, and since she's now connected to the Meta-Crisis Doctor, it would make sense. Somehow..? [[User:Gallifrey102|Gallifrey102]] [[User talk:Gallifrey102|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:45, May 19, 2013 (UTC) | Has anyone considered the possibility that he's the Meta-Crisis Doctor? As we know, he committed genocide, much to The Doctor's dismay, and he also ages as a Human does. It's all a bit timey-wimey, but there's only one version of Rose that could be in the 50th, and since she's now connected to the Meta-Crisis Doctor, it would make sense. Somehow..? [[User:Gallifrey102|Gallifrey102]] [[User talk:Gallifrey102|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:45, May 19, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:Hmmm...that's an interesting idea. The only problem is that at least seven other people know/knew about the Meta-Crisis Doctor: Donna Noble, Martha Jones, Jack Harkness, Rose and Jackie Tyler, and Sarah Jane and Mickey Smith. I've gotten the impression that the Doctor is the only one who really knew about his secret before he showed it to Clara, but I might be wrong. Good thought! [[User:Milar Kayne|Milar Kayne]] [[User talk:Milar Kayne|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:05, May 19, 2013 (UTC) | :Hmmm...that's an interesting idea. The only problem is that at least seven other people know/knew about the Meta-Crisis Doctor: Donna Noble, Martha Jones, Jack Harkness, Rose and Jackie Tyler, and Sarah Jane and Mickey Smith. I've gotten the impression that the Doctor is the only one who really knew about his secret before he showed it to Clara, but I might be wrong. Good thought! [[User:Milar Kayne|Milar Kayne]] [[User talk:Milar Kayne|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:05, May 19, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:I considered that as well. I think it's very well a possibility! One other thing to consider is that the woman in "The End of Time" is an older Rose. Listen to the music when the 10th Doctor (who is pointing the gun at Rassilon) looks at the woman as she uncovers her face. "The Doctor's Theme" (aka "Bad Wolf Theme"/"Rose's Theme"/Flavia's Theme") plays. Perhaps David Tennant's return is actually of the meta-crisis doctor, and John Hurt is the older version of him. And perhaps meta-crisis (younger) and Rose somehow end up in the Time Lock. There is a second person covering his face (he looks like a man; say a woman, but I don't think so) while standing next to Rassilon with the woman; so perhaps that is an older meta-crisis? Also, In "The End of Time", the Time Lords ask if the 10th Doctor still has "the moment". And also in the comic-con trailer I read that Rose warns "the moment is coming." So somehow this all needs to come together and fit. I don't know. It's all a wibbley-wobbley mess! Haha, I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how they sort all of this out! [[User:threehappypenguins|threehappypenguins]] [[User talk:threehappypenguins|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:17, September 20, 2013 (UTC) | |||
All this talk about him being an older version of 8 is a bit far fetched to me - it seems quite obvious that he is an incarnation from the doctors past the doctor would rather forget - now we have seen 1 regenerate through to 8 and 9 regenerate through to 11, so its clear Hurt places between 8 and 9. Now he cant be an older version of 8, as Clara said "I saw all 11 versions of you" if he was an older 8, he'd be an 8 never the less and invalidate Clara's statement - No, as the Doctor said, he is not a Doctor, but is a version of him - now based on what we know and have seen, both 9 and 10 suffered survivors guilt - something the doctor did obviously spooked him, something ths incarnation did! which was so severe made 9, 10 and 11 wipe him from memories. Now its all to do with the name, as the master said "The Doctor, The man who makes people better" or there abouts - clearly this doctor didnt make everyone better, but as a guess, killed a lot of people (the whole time lord race) which pretty much goes against everything a doctor strives to do and goes agans the name of the doctor - --[[Special:Contributions/90.220.11.198|90.220.11.198]]<sup>[[User talk:90.220.11.198#top|talk to me]]</sup> 13:33, May 19, 2013 (UTC) | All this talk about him being an older version of 8 is a bit far fetched to me - it seems quite obvious that he is an incarnation from the doctors past the doctor would rather forget - now we have seen 1 regenerate through to 8 and 9 regenerate through to 11, so its clear Hurt places between 8 and 9. Now he cant be an older version of 8, as Clara said "I saw all 11 versions of you" if he was an older 8, he'd be an 8 never the less and invalidate Clara's statement - No, as the Doctor said, he is not a Doctor, but is a version of him - now based on what we know and have seen, both 9 and 10 suffered survivors guilt - something the doctor did obviously spooked him, something ths incarnation did! which was so severe made 9, 10 and 11 wipe him from memories. Now its all to do with the name, as the master said "The Doctor, The man who makes people better" or there abouts - clearly this doctor didnt make everyone better, but as a guess, killed a lot of people (the whole time lord race) which pretty much goes against everything a doctor strives to do and goes agans the name of the doctor - --[[Special:Contributions/90.220.11.198|90.220.11.198]]<sup>[[User talk:90.220.11.198#top|talk to me]]</sup> 13:33, May 19, 2013 (UTC) | ||