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EDIT: I just read the announcement from [[User:CzechOut|CzechOut]]. Probably no one gives a damn what I think but I appreciate there are others who think of Hurt as a true Ninth incarnation. Just wanted to say one more thing. [[User:CzechOut|CzechOut]] says it's only Smith's Doctor who is fully aware of the whole situation. I want to ask then - from what point of view is this Wikia written? Other Wikias about about franchises - for example Star Trek or Star Wars are written as if everything they describe happened in the past. Obviously we can't write about things that WILL happen in the series. I feel that leaving things as they are because of past incarnations' ego is not right. [[User:Jamjumetley|Jamjumetley]] [[User talk:Jamjumetley|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:03, November 24, 2013 (UTC) | EDIT: I just read the announcement from [[User:CzechOut|CzechOut]]. Probably no one gives a damn what I think but I appreciate there are others who think of Hurt as a true Ninth incarnation. Just wanted to say one more thing. [[User:CzechOut|CzechOut]] says it's only Smith's Doctor who is fully aware of the whole situation. I want to ask then - from what point of view is this Wikia written? Other Wikias about about franchises - for example Star Trek or Star Wars are written as if everything they describe happened in the past. Obviously we can't write about things that WILL happen in the series. I feel that leaving things as they are because of past incarnations' ego is not right. [[User:Jamjumetley|Jamjumetley]] [[User talk:Jamjumetley|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:03, November 24, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:Word of God (Steven Moffat) says that numbering will be unaffected. Merchandise will probably refer to Hurt as the War Doctor. And CzechOut is right, Eccleston and Tennant's Doctors do consider themselves to be 9 and 10 - and likewise, Smith's incarnation believed for the majority of his life that he was the 11th to use the name "Doctor". They know of the Hurt incarnation's existence but don't remember that he accepted the name. Thus the War Doctor will not be called the Ninth Doctor. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|15:29,24/11/2013}} | :Word of God (Steven Moffat) says that numbering will be unaffected. Merchandise will probably refer to Hurt as the War Doctor. And CzechOut is right, Eccleston and Tennant's Doctors do consider themselves to be 9 and 10 - and likewise, Smith's incarnation believed for the majority of his life that he was the 11th to use the name "Doctor". They know of the Hurt incarnation's existence but don't remember that he accepted the name. Thus the War Doctor will not be called the Ninth Doctor. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|15:29,24/11/2013}} | ||
::Jamjumetley, I have a suggestion for you. Browse the wiki to get an idea how many times the NuWho doctors are referred to by number. Most of the time they're not even linked, which would make them harder to find. The act of changing all the nines to tens, etc. is just '''way too much''' work for the editors of this wiki, when there is so much other work to be done. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:54, November 24, 2013 (UTC) | ::Jamjumetley, I have a suggestion for you. Browse the wiki to get an idea how many times the NuWho doctors are referred to by number. Most of the time they're not even linked, which would make them harder to find. The act of changing all the nines to tens, etc. is just '''way too much''' work for the editors of this wiki, when there is so much other work to be done. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:54, November 24, 2013 (UTC) | ||
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::::@[[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] Then let's admit openly that the only reason for not updating things is that it's too much of a work to change all that. Otherwise it's a bit like not telling the whole truth. | ::::@[[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] Then let's admit openly that the only reason for not updating things is that it's too much of a work to change all that. Otherwise it's a bit like not telling the whole truth. | ||
::::And sorry for writing initially in the archive section ;) [[User:Jamjumetley|Jamjumetley]] [[User talk:Jamjumetley|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:20, November 24, 2013 (UTC) | ::::And sorry for writing initially in the archive section ;) [[User:Jamjumetley|Jamjumetley]] [[User talk:Jamjumetley|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:20, November 24, 2013 (UTC) | ||
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::Jamjumetley, please don't twist my words, especially after you admit reading Czechout's explanation of policy. I just wanted you to see the magnitude of the task you are setting others. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:55, November 24, 2013 (UTC) | ::Jamjumetley, please don't twist my words, especially after you admit reading Czechout's explanation of policy. I just wanted you to see the magnitude of the task you are setting others. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:55, November 24, 2013 (UTC) | ||
:::Sorry if you misunderstood me [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]]. It wasn't my intention to twist your words. Hope you don't hold grudge against me. I probably didn't voice my opinion clearly. It doesn't help that the whole case is complicated though... | :::Sorry if you misunderstood me [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]]. It wasn't my intention to twist your words. Hope you don't hold grudge against me. I probably didn't voice my opinion clearly. It doesn't help that the whole case is complicated though... | ||
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::::'''Paul McGann turns into John Hurt so they’re not the same incarnation,''' said Moff. '''He used up another regeneration and I’ll expect he’ll be in trouble shortly – you can’t break rules laid down in the Deadly Assassin.''' | ::::'''Paul McGann turns into John Hurt so they’re not the same incarnation,''' said Moff. '''He used up another regeneration and I’ll expect he’ll be in trouble shortly – you can’t break rules laid down in the Deadly Assassin.''' | ||
::::Source: http://metro.co.uk/2013/11/24/doctor-who-steven-moffat-clears-up-the-whole-doctor-regeneration-problem-sort-of-4199592/ | ::::Source: http://metro.co.uk/2013/11/24/doctor-who-steven-moffat-clears-up-the-whole-doctor-regeneration-problem-sort-of-4199592/ | ||
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:: BBC official site calls him "The War Doctor" --[[User:Silent Hunter UK|Silent Hunter UK]] [[User talk:Silent Hunter UK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:58, November 27, 2013 (UTC) | :: BBC official site calls him "The War Doctor" --[[User:Silent Hunter UK|Silent Hunter UK]] [[User talk:Silent Hunter UK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:58, November 27, 2013 (UTC) | ||
But Hurt IS the Ninth Doctor, this is a fact. And as such all the numbering in this wiki NEEDS to be changed to reflect this. If he comes after Eight, then he is the Ninth. Thus Eccleston is now and for all time the Tenth Doctor. Not going through the entire wiki to correct this would be intellectually dishonest. [[User:Doug Exeter|Doug Exeter]] [[User talk:Doug Exeter|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:40, April 8, 2014 (UTC) | |||
That's a cop-out. The fascts are the facts.[[User:Doug Exeter|Doug Exeter]] [[User talk:Doug Exeter|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] | |||
Just because it means a lot of work doesn't mean it shouldn't be done. If people didn't do stuff because it requires a lot of work, where would humanity be? Should we just stop researching a cure for cancer because it means a lot of work?[[User:Doug Exeter|Doug Exeter]] [[User talk:Doug Exeter|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:40, April 8, 2014 (UTC) | |||
But he's still the Ninth Doctor.[[User:Doug Exeter|Doug Exeter]] [[User talk:Doug Exeter|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:40, April 8, 2014 (UTC) | |||
But he still comes after Eight, making him the Ninth, Eccleston the Tenth, and so on[[User:Doug Exeter|Doug Exeter]] [[User talk:Doug Exeter|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:40, April 8, 2014 (UTC) | But he still comes after Eight, making him the Ninth, Eccleston the Tenth, and so on[[User:Doug Exeter|Doug Exeter]] [[User talk:Doug Exeter|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:40, April 8, 2014 (UTC) | ||