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I agree that the early BF Ace stories were meant to be set early in the New Adventures at the time. The authors said as much. I also absolutely agree with the policy of treating all stories as equal. I can't speak for Signs and Wonders. It's the one discrepancy. However, as a general rule Big Finish has made it clear in their recent stories that they aren't trying to cram them in before Love and War anymore. It's kind of inevitable, really. Big Finish has an ongoing storyline with Ace, and while they certainly have some loyalty to the New Adventures, it wouldn't be easy to keep up with the continuity required to continue considering their stories pre-Love and War. If we look at the perspective on audios ''as they were written'', as you seem to suggest, Lurkers at Sunlight's Edge was never written as a pre-Love and War story. It was set after A Death in the Family, and it after Project: Destiny, all the way back to The Fearmonger. If you extrapolate from the assumption that The Fearmonger is inarguably pre-Love and War, then you can say Lurkers at Sunlight's Edge is also pre-Love and War. It makes more sense, though, to see that Big Finish has essentially conceded that they can't place their Ace stories in any gap in the New Adventures. Until recently, there weren't a lot of choices other than "BF is pre-Love and War," "BF is pre-Set Piece," and "BF stuff doesn't fit very well, but that's Doctor Who for you." However, they made The Prisoner's Dilemma, inventing a new post-Happy Endings period of travel for Ace stories. The memory wipe in Timewyrm: Genesys was the New Adventures' way of explaining any continuity cock-ups they made. The memory wipe in The Prisoner's Dilemma is the same thing for Big Finish.[[User:Fwhiffahder|Fwhiffahder]] [[User talk:Fwhiffahder|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:13, December 28, 2015 (UTC) | I agree that the early BF Ace stories were meant to be set early in the New Adventures at the time. The authors said as much. I also absolutely agree with the policy of treating all stories as equal. I can't speak for Signs and Wonders. It's the one discrepancy. However, as a general rule Big Finish has made it clear in their recent stories that they aren't trying to cram them in before Love and War anymore. It's kind of inevitable, really. Big Finish has an ongoing storyline with Ace, and while they certainly have some loyalty to the New Adventures, it wouldn't be easy to keep up with the continuity required to continue considering their stories pre-Love and War. If we look at the perspective on audios ''as they were written'', as you seem to suggest, Lurkers at Sunlight's Edge was never written as a pre-Love and War story. It was set after A Death in the Family, and it after Project: Destiny, all the way back to The Fearmonger. If you extrapolate from the assumption that The Fearmonger is inarguably pre-Love and War, then you can say Lurkers at Sunlight's Edge is also pre-Love and War. It makes more sense, though, to see that Big Finish has essentially conceded that they can't place their Ace stories in any gap in the New Adventures. Until recently, there weren't a lot of choices other than "BF is pre-Love and War," "BF is pre-Set Piece," and "BF stuff doesn't fit very well, but that's Doctor Who for you." However, they made The Prisoner's Dilemma, inventing a new post-Happy Endings period of travel for Ace stories. The memory wipe in Timewyrm: Genesys was the New Adventures' way of explaining any continuity cock-ups they made. The memory wipe in The Prisoner's Dilemma is the same thing for Big Finish.[[User:Fwhiffahder|Fwhiffahder]] [[User talk:Fwhiffahder|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:13, December 28, 2015 (UTC) | ||
:You say there are "bigger problems" with Hex being after Benny, and with the Doctor remembering everything, but you haven't explained what they are. Can we at least not act like it's unambiguous that Lurker's at Sunlight's Edge came before and contradicts Cat's Cradle: Time's Crucible? Just from reading/listening to the two on their own it's obvious that that doesn't make sense. How about some kind of "''may have'' visited Alaska earlier" statement? Also, if this wiki is supposed to be based that much on authorial intent at the time of writing, I should go edit the [[Loom|loom]] page and get rid of the "looms arnt real lol" circlejerk.[[User:Fwhiffahder|Fwhiffahder]] [[User talk:Fwhiffahder|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:37, December 28, 2015 (UTC) | :You say there are "bigger problems" with Hex being after Benny, and with the Doctor remembering everything, but you haven't explained what they are. Can we at least not act like it's unambiguous that Lurker's at Sunlight's Edge came before and contradicts Cat's Cradle: Time's Crucible? Just from reading/listening to the two on their own it's obvious that that doesn't make sense. How about some kind of "''may have'' visited Alaska earlier" statement? Also, if this wiki is supposed to be based that much on authorial intent at the time of writing, I should go edit the [[Loom|loom]] page and get rid of the "looms arnt real lol" circlejerk.[[User:Fwhiffahder|Fwhiffahder]] [[User talk:Fwhiffahder|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:37, December 28, 2015 (UTC) | ||
::I'm not saying it has to be a definite statement that Lurkers at Sunlight's Edge is after Cat's Cradle: Time's Crucible. I'm just saying the page must at the very least ''acknowledge'' that it's not clear-cut, and there's ambiguity as to where the placement is. |
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