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: Good point, though it should either be "in ''Doctor Who'' and related media", or else "in ''Doctor Who''-related media" with the hyphen. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:57, June 12, 2020 (UTC) | : Good point, though it should either be "in ''Doctor Who'' and related media", or else "in ''Doctor Who''-related media" with the hyphen. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:57, June 12, 2020 (UTC) | ||
:: Voicing my support for ''LGBTQ+ representation in Doctor Who and related media''. Though the examples of Queer in past usage are valid and I wouldn't personally take offence if kept as Queer representation, I would say that outside of an academic landscape... LGBTQ+ does tend to be the more frequently used term when its comes to referring as a community/umbrella-ing term. Queer has tended to be more of a personal term of identification. (though not always, as ''Queers dig Time Lords'' shows). Either way, we land on whether to keep Queer or change LGBTQ+, we definitely need to amend ''in Doctor Who'' to ''in Doctor Who and related media'', as we now have notable examples of representation from ''Class'', ''Torchwood'', ''The Diary of River Song'' and in some manner, solidified what was planned to be an instance within ''Sarah Jane Adventures''. [[User:JDPManjoume|JDPManjoume]] [[User talk:JDPManjoume|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:16, September 4, 2020 (UTC) | :: Voicing my support for ''LGBTQ+ representation in Doctor Who and related media''. Though the examples of Queer in past usage are valid and I wouldn't personally take offence if kept as Queer representation, I would say that outside of an academic landscape... LGBTQ+ does tend to be the more frequently used term when its comes to referring as a community/umbrella-ing term. Queer has tended to be more of a personal term of identification. (though not always, as ''Queers dig Time Lords'' shows). Either way, we land on whether to keep Queer or change LGBTQ+, we definitely need to amend ''in Doctor Who'' to ''in Doctor Who and related media'', as we now have notable examples of representation from ''Class'', ''Torchwood'', ''The Diary of River Song'' and in some manner, solidified what was planned to be an instance within ''Sarah Jane Adventures''. [[User:JDPManjoume|JDPManjoume]] [[User talk:JDPManjoume|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:16, September 4, 2020 (UTC) | ||
:::I agree on the need to change the name to ...Doctor Who-related media. I think Doctor Who and related media is a little too broad. With the hyphen at least we're still holding it within the Doctor Who universe. | |||
:::In situations like this I sometimes look to how other wikis deal with things like this but have struggled a little bit to find any wikis that actually have a page like ours. Wikipedia's page [[wikipedia:Media portrayal of LGBT people]] is very clinical likely to seem a bit not inclusive. | |||
:::Looking to other wikis there's the [[w:c:riordan|Riordan Wiki]] (of the Percy Jackson & the Olympians series etc) they also just go for [[w:c:riordan|LGBT]] in their intro have ''(also known as LGBTQ + , LGBTQA +, LGBTQIA +, LGBTQIA2S + , or LGBTQIA2P +)''. | |||
:::Going with the Fan Show's LGBTQ is perhaps the best way out for the naming and then putting something like the Riordan wiki has at the top of the page so we can cover everything, while still having a workable title. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 14:37, September 17, 2020 (UTC) | |||
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