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 :I hear your objection to prioritisation of TV content loud and clear. Obviously it's only a matter which would apply to "TV first" characters with extremely long pages – mainly the Doctors and their companions – so it wouldn't affect the pages which you and I are most fond of editing. But hopefully [[Special:Diff/3099698]] isn't really ''so'' objectionable? I'm, uhh, rather hoping this can get done without needing the forums – which is to say, that it can get done ''ever'' – so please do respond. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 17:31, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
 ::I've added sections explicitly addressing these concerns using the examples of [[Tenth Doctor#Appearance]] and [[Tenth Doctor#Biography]], btw. – [[User:NateBumber|n8]] ([[User talk:NateBumber|☎]]) 19:16, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
-:::I think a better example to illustrate my qualms is [[Sutekh]]. This is an article with a substantial amount of EU content that's arguably integral page as we've written it. I ''cannot imagine'' that it's acceptable to rewrite this page to focus on the TV appearances of this character, or even what such a rewrite to this page could look like. Thankfully, this is one instance where the issue of subpages to trim excess content doesn't yet seem relevant, but the basic issue here is the same. It seems bizarre to me that, say, [[Anne Travers]], could have her article rewritten to focus on a single story she appeared in on TV. (Yes I did find a random character that Candy Jar was using, why do you ask?)
+:::I think a better example to illustrate my qualms is [[Sutekh]]. This is an article with a substantial amount of EU content that's arguably integral page as we've written it. I ''cannot imagine'' that it's acceptable to rewrite this page to focus on the TV appearances of this character, or even what such a rewrite to this page could look like. Thankfully, this is one instance where the issue of subpages to trim excess content doesn't yet seem relevant, but the basic issue here is the same. It seems bizarre to me that, say, [[Anne Travers]], could have her article rewritten to focus on a single story she appeared in on TV - were it to get too long. (Yes I did find a random character that Candy Jar was using, why do you ask?) Or even [[Kate Stewart]], a character that originated in non BBC media, has an extensive life outside of the BBC show, whose rights are owned by someone other than the BBC. Her page is ''reasonably'' large. It's 211 on [[Special:LongPages]]. Which isn't super up there, but isn't nothing either. ([[Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart]] meets two of those three criteria! And his is 38 on LongPages!)
 :::Perhaps it's an ideological issue for me and we'll just never agree. But this change seems counterproductive, in violation of both the spirit and the letter of [[T:NPOV]]. It seems like it provides fodder for those in the fanbase who want to relegate the expanded universe material to a second class status (though, of course, I know you don't intend this), which I'm ''strongly'' against, and the fact that Doctor Who doesn't do this is part of why I'm here.
 :::But in all honesty I don't think this is the best way to help our users. What is the problem we're trying to solve? We want a way for people to find out what information comes from what sources easily, if they wish to do so, on mobile, quickly, where they might lack cmd+f, without privileging TV sources. Is there a way to do this? I think there has to be - and I think giving up and privileging TV sources is defeatist, no offense meant.