Talk:The End of the World (TV story)

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Dating

I get confused about this story. Near the beggining the Doctor says they're 5 billion years in Rose's future (making the year 5,000,002,005 CE) but later he says they're in the year 5,000,000,000 CE. He just forgot about 2005 years. --GingerM 16:37, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Well, when you're talking on the order of billions, a paltry two thousand and five isn't really worth mentioning. I mean, if it is the year 5,000,000,000, So either date is possible. I can't see the Doctor saying "we're four billion, nine hundred and ninety-nine million, nine hundred and ninety-seven thousand, nine hundred and ninety five years into your future." That's overly complicated.

On a related tangent, don't the British figure billions differently than North Americans? I was under the impression that a "billion" was equal to "a million million," what we over here would call a trillion. IanWatson 17:32, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)

Granted, when the Doctor first takes Rose 100 years into the future, he tells her it's the year 2105. Then he takes her 10,000 years into the future, and says it's 12,005, so 5,000,002,005 makes sense from that standpoint. On the other hand, the general consensus is that when year amounts greater than 1000 are being used, the person giving the date is probably rounding up. As for the meaning of "billions," as I understand it the definition of "a million million" is the old usage, and today the term usually means the same as it does in North America, what used to be called "a thousand million" in the UK. At any rate, I'll add "circa" to the year in the infobox, and note the dating controversy in the story notes.

--Freethinker1of1 18:19, 14 Nov 2005 (UTC)

That was my impression too; in any event, in the real world the Sun is supposed to expand in 5 thousand million years, not 5 million million. Ben Standeven 22:14, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Following New Earth I'm going to change the dating info on the main page. This is in the year 5,000,000,023 and the Doctor states again that the last story was in the year 5,000,000,000. The facts of New Earth are also consistent with the story being set 23 years after TEOTW. I'm also taking the spacings out and writing the date as 5000000000 although it looks strange we wouldnt write the date today as 2,006 (although we probably should) and i dont know where we would draw the line. If anyone disagrees with any of the points, im happy to revert and discuss further. --Amxitsa 20:05, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

Nokia

I just noticed that you can clearly see the "Nokia" on Rose's phone before the Doctor tinkers with it. Since product placement isn't allowed on the BBC, is this usually covered? I thought it was. If so, should it be noted as trivia/goof? --Golden Monkey 19:24, December 28, 2009 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure if a brand outright appears, it's covered, just only with information from that appearance (only if it's legible though, as per T:NO RW). Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 13:58, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Uncredited cast

I moved the unsourced uncredited cast to the talk page until they can be properly sourced. Shambala108 ☎ 03:31, March 25, 2013 (UTC)

• Coffa - Paul Kasey (uncredited)
• Lute - Alan Ruscoe (uncredited)

Moving the following here until they can be properly sourced. Shambala108 ☎ 04:06, July 14, 2015 (UTC)

• Voice of the Adherents of the Repeated Meme - Silas Carson
• Voice of the Moxx of Balhoon - Silas Carson