Talk:She Said, He Said: A Prequel (webcast)

Dab term

I agree with the {{rename}} tag: since it was first broadcast on Red Button, it should be dabbed "TV story."
--SOTO ☎ 20:15, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Narrative?

Here, we can debate whether or not to consider this story to be a narrative source. I personally think it is; the "museum" might be in their heads, it's certainly not meant to be non-narrative, and it was produced in full, juat like any other story. In fact, it's very much like any other short story, except for the unorthodox format. CzechOut stated in this edit summary that he is "not sure He Said, She Said is narrative." Could you perhaps explain your reasons, Czech?
--SOTO ☎ 20:15, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

This discussion was referred to the forums on or about 20130514043123

• I'm not Czech, but assuming "narrative" in this context means "canonical storytelling" I have to side with those who feel it isn't. The breaking of the fourth wall, the placement of the characters among props from last episodes (including ones the Doctor couldn't possibly possess) suggests this, at its base, is no more canon than the 2013 BAFTA skit, barring any indication of it being a dream. I place it in the same category as the trailer for The Web of Fear in which the Second Doctor encouraged viewers to hold mummy and daddy's hands while watching the episode. 23skidoo ☎ 23:00, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

There are two arguments against this being "narrative".

"It was on the planet Skaro that my old enemy the Master was finally put on trial." Who exactly is the Eighth Doctor speaking to here, if not the audience? There's no way he spoke these words aloud in-universe, and it's pretty unlikely he even thought these sentences to himself—yet they're clearly part of an in-continuity narrative. Likewise for the Fourth Doctor in The Deadly Assassin or Rassilon in The End of Time. And if you go back and watch them, nearly half the stories in the Moffat era have similar narration. How does seeing the Doctor speak those lines make it any different?

As for the props the Doctor couldn't possibly possess: These scenes are almost certainly inside the Doctor's timeline, not in the normal universe, and in the episode we see or hear about the Doctor and Clara both walking past things the Doctor doesn't possess. But, even before they enter the Doctor's timeline, they're in a dead TARDIS, and as past stories (Journey to the Center of the TARDIS, The Ancestor Cell, Time's Crucible, …) have shown, you should expect the impossible to be there (e.g., all of the umbrella stands that the Doctor admired but didn't pick up). But, even before that, the TARDIS has always been full of things the Doctor's didn't collect, and couldn't have collected. The dress that Victoria wore when she left is still in the TARDIS wardrobe. Idris even told us that she can access rooms that haven't been created yet.

Really, this is easier to understand as Clara and the Doctor talking to themselves than half of the previous voiceovers have been, and, given the special circumstances of where they were, I don't think there's any problem fitting it into continuity. --70.36.140.206^{talk to me} 15:03, May 27, 2013 (UTC)