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- Where did Gwen get the Torchwood contact lenses? Bridget Spears has the pair that she borrowed from work in Children of Earth, and the Hub blew up so she can't really get another pair. Even if she did have more than one pair, why did she just happen to have them with her when they were forced to flee her house in The New World?
- If she was fleeing her house, surely she would take the only Torchwood tech she still had?
- After the helicopter crash in Episode 1 we cut to the scene where they are all arrested. In that moment Gwen could've taken the lenses as a precaution. At this point she wasn't fleeing her house.
- Given the time frome involved, there's also nothing to explicitly say she couldn't have had some contact with Bridget Spears (and/or Lois Habiba) to retrieve the lenses since they were last seen.
- If she was fleeing her house, surely she would take the only Torchwood tech she still had?
- If the contact lenses are isomorphic, why did they work for Lois in Children of Earth?
- It's made clear in the episode that Gwen was lying as she wanted to go on the mission. Even Esther realised she was making it up, sending her a message saying, rather bluntly, "liar!"
- Given everything that's happened so far (the miracle, assasination attempts, hunted by the CIA), Torchwood annouces once more that "We can't trust anyone", and even Rex takes-off on his own with the car forcing everyone else to walk back to base; Jack is reminded of his own mortality and suddenly says "I have needs" then leaves the group to pursue some tail. Is this out of character?
- Not really. They didn't have anything better to do at the time, and its the kind of thing that Rex and Jack would do.
- Sure, a complete stranger that Jack would pick up in a public bar is probably a safe to sleep with (true); considering that Torchwood had just been shown that everyone they've ever met is now corruptable, and they're walking away from an arrest location while the CIA is hunting them with either: a) people who know he can die, or b) people who know that arsenic kills immortals (does Dr Juarez know this? Perhaps Jack could ask agent Peterfield about this in his spare time.)
- It may not be the smartest thing in the world, but out of character for Jack? Hardly.
- Sure, a complete stranger that Jack would pick up in a public bar is probably a safe to sleep with (true); considering that Torchwood had just been shown that everyone they've ever met is now corruptable, and they're walking away from an arrest location while the CIA is hunting them with either: a) people who know he can die, or b) people who know that arsenic kills immortals (does Dr Juarez know this? Perhaps Jack could ask agent Peterfield about this in his spare time.)
- Not really. They didn't have anything better to do at the time, and its the kind of thing that Rex and Jack would do.
- Jack suddenly disappears from their "base" (even Esther remarks about his disappearnce) after which he is next seen climing in a window (where the PhiCorp conferance is?) only to point a gun at Oswald and blurt out his own name. Is this an out of character / plot contrivance?
- Not really. Jack's been known to randomly leave for his own reasons before (See Children of Earth) He is clearly worried that PhiCorp was talking to Oswald about him, and he doesn't seem to buy Oswald feeling forgiven. Probably because Jack, himself, has murdered a child.
- Given PhiCorp seemed to know about the Miracle in advance, and the CIA tried to kill Jack, therefore Jask assumes that Oswald would know something about it (that doesn't make sence). I can understand why Jack would want to talk with Oswald for other reasons... I'll accept that Jack was so agitated that he accidently said his name - rookie mistake. Aren't guns obsolete now?
- Why would guns be obsolete? You can't kill someone, but you can incapacitate them, leave them unable to communicate, put them in incredible pain and torment that will last forever… all pretty useful things to threaten someone with. And there are multiple times on the show so far that people have explicitly mentioned all this.
- Minor point, why bring a gun to a torture-interrogation? (I'll accept their availability, in spite of planning.)
- Both times Torchwood questioned people (Friedkin, Danes) they had near-complete surprise, yet guns were drawn immediately. You'd get the idea that neither Rex nor Jack had any experience interrogating people without a gun.
- (seems like lazy writing to me.)
- Why would guns be obsolete? You can't kill someone, but you can incapacitate them, leave them unable to communicate, put them in incredible pain and torment that will last forever… all pretty useful things to threaten someone with. And there are multiple times on the show so far that people have explicitly mentioned all this.
- Given PhiCorp seemed to know about the Miracle in advance, and the CIA tried to kill Jack, therefore Jask assumes that Oswald would know something about it (that doesn't make sence). I can understand why Jack would want to talk with Oswald for other reasons... I'll accept that Jack was so agitated that he accidently said his name - rookie mistake. Aren't guns obsolete now?
- Not really. Jack's been known to randomly leave for his own reasons before (See Children of Earth) He is clearly worried that PhiCorp was talking to Oswald about him, and he doesn't seem to buy Oswald feeling forgiven. Probably because Jack, himself, has murdered a child.