Talk:Clara (song)

Questions about adding the Leitmotif category and some minor article expansion suggestions

There's been a suggestion over at The Impossible Girl article to merge it with this one. If that merger is carried out, maybe we could add the Leitmotifs category to this article, just to clear up potential confusion. The song became diegetic after the events of Hell Bent, but it and its non-HB arrangements also count as non-diegetic (out-of-universe) musical leitmotifs.

On another note, the use of Clara's leitmotif and its different arrangements during Series 7 is already elaborated upon well in the Behind the Scenes section, so maybe we could add one or two more sentences on its arrangements in Series 8 and Series 9 ? For instance, you have an interwar era sounding arrangement in the episode Mummy on the Orient Express, titled "There's That Smile" on the Series 8 soundtrack (track 34). A somewhat Christmassy arrangement of her leitmotif also appears in parts of another Series 8 track, "Clara's Dream Christmas" (heard in Last Christmas). There was also a brief, slightly haunting arrangement of her leitmotif in The Time of the Doctor back in Series 7 (you hear it when the Doctor is up in the belfry and she's asking for help via the crack downstairs; it wasn't included on published soundtracks outside the episode). I think Clara also had at least one variation on her theme in Series 9, besides the guitar arrangement heard in Hell Bent.

Just some ideas. Feel free to voice your opinion on how to proceed. I wouldn't want the Behind the Scenes section growing longer than it already is at this point. Cheers.--MojSvetJeVidiek ☎ 07:49, January 12, 2017 (UTC)

A bit late on commenting. I have no objection to adding it to a leitmotif category, because that's what it is. Any merging, however, I feel should retain "Clara (song)" as the dominant article title as this is canonically what the song is known as in-universe and canon always takes precedence over real-world. (For example, articles about real people who are referenced in-universe always have that information first and any real-world information second). As the wiki inclusion policy is not to consider deleted scenes as canon or valid information, we can't mention in the in-universe section that the Doctor has also named the song "I Forget", though a redirect is probably in order, especially if a future soundtrack release includes the version played in the deleted scene. 23skidoo ☎ 17:31, July 7, 2017 (UTC)