User talk:Snivystorm

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Hey this is my talk page. Please don't spam, troll, waste my time, be a hassle, all that bad stuff here. Thank you.Snivystorm ^_^

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I'm sorry. I didn't realise there was a talk page for every single article. I will ask there then. By the way, would you prefer I kept replying to your messages here or on your talk page in future? Thanks! Snivystorm ☎ 17:12, October 4, 2015 (UTC)

Edit on your user page

Hi! Your recent addition to your user page had to be removed for violating our spoiler policy. Please take some time to read about our spoiler policy here and here. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎ 14:19, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

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Edit summaries

Hi! Please don't mark an edit as "minor" when you've added content. Please see Tardis:Edit summary for details. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎ 20:50, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Sorry about, I wasn't tinkling straight ahah sorry ^^ Snivystorm ☎ 21:26, October 11, 2015 (UTC)

Page deletion

Hi! Thanks for adding a delete tag to a page that violated Tardis:Spoiler policy. One small thing, if you see something that needs to be deleted, all you have to do is add the tag. Don't remove all content from the page, see Tardis:Deletion policy for details. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎ 14:11, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

No problem, glad to be of service ^_^ I just figured deleting it all was safest since then no one has anything spoiled at all in the meantime, but I'll do otherwise in the future. Snivystorm ☎ 14:57, April 30, 2017 (UTC)

Block

You're blocked for a month for your comments at Talk:Friend from the Future (webcast). If you had insulted any other user besides me, I would have given you a permanent block. Please carefully read Tardis:No personal attacks. Shambala108 ☎ 15:51, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

I think there's been a misunderstanding here. I didn't mean to offend you; if I did, I wholeheartedly apologise. What I meant by my comment was that the guy I was talking to said there was no discussion and I appear to have misinterpreted your message as that the admins will vote on it, hence I was defending what you wrote, not insulting you. I apologise once more for this misunderstanding. If you want to take this matter to neutral ground rather than here, I'm happy to do that; I just want to understand what my attack actually was so I know to avoid such in future. Also, the Red Cross thing tells me to tell you my Block ID is 6635. Once again, I'm deeply sorry. Snivystorm ☎ 16:34, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

I honestly just want to be able to edit and improve articles again on here. I will ever avoid discussing anything with anyone on here again. I just want to help out here, not cause destruction or bring harm to others. Snivystorm ☎ 17:50, May 2, 2017 (UTC)

Reverting edits

Hi, I wanted to ask that you cease reverting edits on such pages as TV: Thin Ice. You removed a worthy production error and a continuity point, and in both cases there was nothing wrong with the actual edits. Thanks. OS25 (Talk) 17:48, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

I believe I left the valid question just desiring confirmation about our certainty that it was the exact same instruction. If it was wrong of me to want complete validation, then I will refrain from such in future if I'm (hopefully) allowed to return to editing. I apologise. By the way, what was wrong with the ones I put in that you removed? I'm failing to understand the difference between mine and yours, perhaps you could enlighten me? Snivystorm ☎ 17:53, May 1, 2017 (UTC)

I haven't removed anything. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paulmorris7777 (talk • contribs) .

You did, I put it back. Snivystorm ☎ 15:29, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you note

Hi! I wanted to thank you for showing restraint in today's discussions. While it is preferable to achieve a consensus, it is not always possible. Since the page in question is now stable and you chose to cease the argument that wasn't leading anywhere, the matter is essentially resolved. Thus, I commend you for the ability to agree to disagree. It is to everybody's benefit. Amorkuz ☎ 19:42, May 14, 2017 (UTC)

Renaming

Hi, sorry for the trouble but I don't suppose you could tell me how to rename the page I set up Corsair's TARDIS to read The Corsair's TARDIS? I want to do it by myself. – The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Saint2 (talk • contribs) .

Hi again Saint2. Only admins are allowed to rename pages. --DCLM ☎ 15:26, June 25, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Regeneration energy

Hi, it's more than alright to create the page. It would be great if you do. The problem with the version I deleted was that it provided very specific information that two editors including me did not recognise the source of. And no source has been given. So sourcing was the problem. Thank you in advance if you take care of it. Amorkuz ☎ 07:44, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Glad you enjoyed it. And thank you for asking. It is always a good idea. I just wanted to clarify that a deleted page does not automatically require a special permission to be restored. Essentially, if you try to create a page and the reason for its deletion has nothing to do with the reason you want to create, it is probably okay to recreate it. Though asking the deletor can remove any danger of repeating the same mistake. Pages that should not be recreated at all are likely to be protected from creation, meaning that you will not be able to recreate them anyways. Amorkuz ☎ 18:49, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Active vs. Passive

Hi, I've noticed that in the past few days you've been making edits by remove what you think is passive voice from the wiki and replacing it with active voice. You haven't be changing from passive to active you've been changing between different forms of the active voice.

|My boss is giving many assignments" is in the active voice "Many assignments are being given by my boss is in the passive voice.

"The Doctor says Clara is always acting teacher-y." is in the active voice.

Adric♥Nyssa∩Talk? 16:38, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

Unfortunately not, it's one of the strange quirks of the English language is that there are three versions of the present tense in the active voice.
  • I read
  • I am reading (for continuous actions)
  • I do read (for emphasis)

Which one you use depends on the context of the sentence. Adric♥Nyssa∩Talk? 20:54, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

Thank you

Thank you for defending the wiki from overly aggressive users. In order to improve our coordination in the future, a couple of points. It is more efficient to notify an admin on their talk page than to continue undoing edits or calling for admin attention in an edit summary. If need be, the edits can be reverted at any time. So, unless the new state of the page makes babies cry in their prams and birds fall from the sky, it is not necessary to return the page to the original state right on the spot. What needs to be done is to suggest a discussion on a talk page and notify an admin. What should be avoided (and was avoided in this case, which I am very happy about) is replying in kind and making too many undo edits. Note that if one user makes 4 edits and the other user undoes them 4 times, then both have engaged in an edit war and both are likely to be blocked. As I said, it did not happen this time, so let it never happen to you. Thanks for keeping a cool head. Amorkuz ☎ 23:03, January 1, 2018 (UTC)

Sycorax invasion of Earth

I created that page and am currently in the process of building it. Hence why I put that Inuse thing up. I'll remove it when I'm done. You didn't give me the chance to do more than create the page's outline before you went to work on it.--WarGrowlmon18 ☎ 17:11, January 15, 2018 (UTC)

Frankly, I don't know about that policy thing but last time I created a page like this someone told me to put that thing up if I wanted everyone to leave it alone. I think it actually says not to edit for 72 hours while that thing is up. And yeah, I removed your stuff because as I stated, I'm currently writing the page. Hence its not complete yet. Also, there were glaring errors such as the Doctor being taken care of in Rose's "other's flat." I assume you meant "mother's flat." I actually fixed and kept that part but there was other stuff like that. Just leave the page alone for the next few hours while I build it. I'm watching the episode and writing the damn thing at the same time.--WarGrowlmon18 ☎ 17:32, January 15, 2018 (UTC)

Deleted image

Hi, how are you? I was just wondering if you could tell me why the image I uploaded for the page "Roscoe (Flatline)" was deleted? Did I do something wrong? LauraBatham ☎ 01:10, January 17, 2018 (UTC)

"Main enemy" is often the enemy

Yes, I will happily confirm and deny your views. Formally, there is no restriction to just one enemy. You can clearly see it in the documentation for the {{Infobox Story}}: for instance, {{Infobox Story/doc/TV story}} and {{Infobox Story/doc/novel}}. But editorially, there are very few situations where two main enemies would be warranted. If one puts three or more main enemies, they are probably doing it wrong.

Let me premise a more elaborate explanation by the mention that this is a bad variable. Bad because it causes an enormous amount of back and forth in direct opposition to Tardis:Edit wars are good for absolutely nothing. Everyone has their own ideas of what an enemy is, how to compare them, etc. What if a character is the enemy the whole episode and then saves the Doctor's life? What if the Doctor is tortured by one character but the commands are secretly issued by another, as we learn five episodes later? We did manage to codify exactly what "doctor" means and when another doctor is a "secondary doctor". With the main enemy, the situation is a bit hopeless. There are only guidelines and no firm rules.

So let me try to explain the guidelines, which I formulated for myself after interacting with other admin.

  • This is not Game of Thrones. It is virtually never the case that everyone is the enemy. I do not doubt that there are stories with three main enemies (mainly because there typically are stories with any given property), but they are exceedingly rare and definitely require a discussion.
  • This is actually a show about peace. It is completely fine not to have a main enemy in the story. It is certainly much better than invent an artificial one or elevate a mere nuisance to the status of the main enemy.
  • The main enemies need not be individual persons. It is much more informative to give a collective noun than to list all the names. Think Cybermen vs. Krail, Krang, etc. for The Tenth Planet.
  • In all cases, try to find one ultimate enemy (be it one person or a group thereof). That's what the form "Main enemy" in the infobox hints at. Usually, just one. It's very easy to list everyone who stepped on the Doctor's foot or called him names, but it's not very helpful.
  • Once again, Doctor Who is a show about second chances, reconciliation, compromise. It is not about searching for enemies. If someone acts in their self-interest without morally compromising themselves, they are not the enemy. If someone follows orders according to the chain of command, they are not the enemy. If someone committed a horrible act unknowingly, they are not the enemy. I can't give you an exact definition, but the rule of thumb is: if the Doctor would not call them an enemy, they are not the enemy.
  • Another view of this is akin to criminal justice. The main enemy should have a sinister motive, explicit intent and realistic opportunity to hurt the main characters. Daleks in The Pilot are not given the opportunity to hurt the Doctor. Instead, he is using them against someone else. Hence, they are not the main enemy (it was explicitly discussed on the talk page).
  • For me, the model is The Chase. It is an "anthology" story with multiple settings, each with its own dangers. There are Aridians, Mire Beasts, robots, robot duplicates and Mechonoids. They are all antagonists to a certain extent. But only Daleks are considered the "main enemy". In other words, find someone who persists throughout the story rather than only in parts of it, who really intends to harm the characters, whose motives are not pure and who is actually dangerous.
  • And to have two main enemies, one needs two equally powerful but independent threats, which does not happen that often (though Doomsday might be one of such cases).

Does this leave space for equivocation? Sure. But it certainly excludes goons, mindless robots, comic-relief characters, as well as those who repents at the end of the story (you wouldn't call your partner the enemy if you make up in the end, would you?).

Television stories typically get enough editors to have settled the question a long time ago. So changing things there is usually not needed. Novels often have missing information for sure. I have not read these ones, so cannot judge for myself. But there definitely should be fewer enemies. If there are so many enemies in one story, they are either completely pathetic and easily defeated, in which case they need not merit a "main enemy" label, or some of them command the others and are, thus, the "main", or they form an alliance that then can be the main enemy collectively. Hope this helps. Amorkuz ☎ 23:39, January 17, 2018 (UTC)

Starship of Theseus

Hi Snivystorm why do you think my recent edit on the Eighth Doctor page be vandelism. I listen to the story last night and changed the text to be accurate to the story. He aims to lead them back to the time lord ship however on the way he spots a Dalek Ship and uses that instead. Other clues it is a Dalek ship is that there is a Dalek on board and he isn't sure of how to work the controls. Also the sound design as the Dalek heartbeat in it. Adric♥Nyssa∩Talk? 08:21, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

No Problem, I was a bit tired when I wrote it so it probably that why it might have been broken. Adric♥Nyssa∩Talk? 11:25, January 21, 2018 (UTC)

Helping others

Hi! I definitely appreciate your enthusiasm and your desire to help others. And if someone directly asks you a question, you can answer to the best of your knowledge (but it's best to make clear that it might be helpful for them to ask an admin). But if someone specifically asks an admin a question, like User:JMC Red Dwarf did about videos, it's best to let the admin answer the question. User:Amorkuz and I (and a few other admins) do try to get back to a user within two days, which is a very reasonable time for answering user questions. Therefore it's not necessary for a non-admin to answer questions asked directly of admins. Thanks, Shambala108 ☎ 20:10, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

infobox

Hi, I just noticed the infobox you are using on your main user page is the "Infobox Individual". That one is only for DWU characters. For user pages, you would use the "Infobox User". Thanks, Shambala108 ☎ 23:43, January 28, 2018 (UTC)

Series 5 story count

Hi, I wasn't the one who made the edit, but was just wondering how you got the story count of 14 instead of 10? I thought 2 partners made 1 story, and am unsure where these other 4 stories come from, especially since there aren't even 14 episodes. Thanks for your time, 0003c9fe ☎ 21:24, January 30, 2018 (UTC)

Edit summaries

Hi, please make sure that in your edit summaries you don't mark other users' edits as "vandalism" unless you are 100% sure it is vandalism. New users often don't know our policies and some don't even know much beyond the basics of wiki editing. As Tardis:No personal attacks states, always assume good faith. Thanks, Shambala108 ☎ 14:03, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

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