User talk:DoctorQuoi

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Explanation

Hi. I thought I would just pop by to explain why I removed your first edit on Hexagora (audio story) about the reference to A Christmas Carol. The main issue with that edit was that the sentence you added the source to said that the Doctor had been engaged before, and the engagement to Marilyn Monroe did not fit that criteria as it happened in the Doctor's future. LauraBatham ☎ 05:56, June 13, 2020 (UTC)

Hi LauraBatham, thank you very much for the explanation, I completely understand! I'm still new to the wiki so I'm still in the learning process. Thank you very much for fixing my silly mistake(s)!

Just FYI

Not an admin, but just a heads up, deleting your own talk page isn't kosher under T:VAN. Najawin ☎ 06:09, June 13, 2020 (UTC)

Thank you! Yes I'm terribly sorry, I'm still new to the wiki and still learning how it works, and still having a bit of trouble. Thank you for undoing my "idiotic" mistake!– The preceding unsigned comment was added by DoctorQuoi (talk • contribs) .

Also going to note that you can indent code with multiple ":"s and sign your comments with "~~~~" (four tildes). Najawin ☎ 06:23, June 13, 2020 (UTC)
I see, thank you very much for the helpful information user Najawin! What is required for making a sign for comments? Also, I notice that you are a mathematics and philosophy major! I study Chemical Physics and would be very interested in writing more wiki articles based on mathematics and science. How can we get started on this project? DoctorQuoi ☎ 06:30, June 13, 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi
I'm not technically a philosophy major, my minor was that. I don't like talking about my personal life too much, but effectively my areas of interest (without going into issues of specialization, which is too much for me to be comfortable about) would be something like history and philosophy of science, as well as foundations of physics, and both of those specifically related to quantum mechanics and structuralism. In general though, this wiki doesn't talk about issues unless they're mentioned in the DWU, and it doesn't talk about them that much past what is said about them in the DWU. So for instance, I've gone through and tried to add or clean up small behind the scene sections for most of the quantum physics entries here. EG: Klein-Gordon field had no behind the scenes section and so the entire thing was just technobabble to any reader of the wiki. But creating an entry for, say, Bohmian Mechanics, while something I would adore, would be outside the scope of this wiki. Najawin ☎ 06:44, June 13, 2020 (UTC)
Oh, I see. My apologies for asking, that was very rude of me. Thank you for the explanation though. That really is a shame as there is quite a lot of potential in that and honestly I do get rather sad when the show and the wiki rely on technobabble rather than legitimate science but it is understandable. I guess that would explain why the Happy prime page was so small. That is too bad. I do also remember seeing the Klein-Gordon field page and was wondering why it was so small compared to the chapters I have seen in my QFT course textbook! Is there no way to convince the admins of the legitimacy of such a project? I would be happy to continue this conversation in private if that is what you may prefer. Is there a way to exchange such information on the wiki via some communication channel that is not related to the "talk" button featured on a user's page? DoctorQuoi ☎ 06:53, June 13, 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi
P.S. I also notice that each time I update this page, your edit for the note that user LauraBatham left seems to disappear. Is there something I am doing wrong or that I am doing to cause this. Each time I see a new message I just "edit" the talk page. Should I not be doing this?

No worries, but I'd really rather not. The policy for the wiki is that things are meant to be for the average user who will come to the site. So saying, "oh, you've heard of the Schrodinger equation and relativity, combine those for some particles, that sorta works" makes sense. Getting into the nuances of what the exact equation is, spin, QFT, etc etc, that will harm the average reader more than it helps them. I don't think I ever edited Laura's comment. So I'm not sure what that's about. Speaking of Chemical Physics though, have you read Woolley's 1978 paper? Must a Molecule Have a Shape? It raised a lot of questions people still haven't found completely satisfactory answers for. Najawin ☎ 07:11, June 13, 2020 (UTC)

No problem, I understand about it being too much for a general user. My friends certainly get bored to tears anytime I start talking about my work. I guess I just need some new friends haha! Anyhow, don't worry about the problem with user LauraBatham 's comment, I found out what happened, I kept clicking on the "recent edit" part of the notification so it was showing me the most recent edit to the page (the green text that usually appears at the top of the page when you check the latest update to a page showing you where the update happened. Actually, it's funny you should mention R. Guy Woolley. His name was brought up a few times in an advanced undergraduate Inorganic Chemistry class I took since I believe his work on calculating Hamiltonians for those types of high-spin molecules is quite prominent in the field. The professor also mentioned about his work in other areas of Chemistry and Physics but I was, ashamedly, uninterested by it at the time and never really bothered to check out more. I am currently a "graduate grunt" who is more focused on experimental theoretical science rather than philosophical so I have never really had a chance to pursue that area. To bring this back around to R.G. Woolley, I also took a statistical mechanics class in which his name was brought up again and the professor for that course recommended we, in fact, read that very same 1978 paper you mentioned. Sadly, I am ashamed to admit that I failed to for the second time, mostly because I was more interested when I found out at the end of the course about how Statistical Mechanics has been revived since it is playing such a big role in machine learning and neural networks currently (I even wrote my term paper on it) so I spent all my holiday reading time on that instead. I may have some time to go over that paper now that quarantine is still in full force, so we'll see! Why, may I ask, do you ask? DoctorQuoi ☎ 07:33, June 13, 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi
Curiosity to some extent. It's probably one of the few areas of chemistry I have any knowledge of whatsoever though, since it's specifically about whether shape, a form of structure, can become emergent from quantum mechanics (the answer being in general no, meaning that chemistry isn't straightforwardly reducible to physics [actually there was a later paper by someone else, I forget who, arguing that pilot wave theory has the philosophical capacity to allow for chemistry, but the point remains that quantum mechanics in general can't necessarily produce chemistry]). Najawin ☎ 07:54, June 13, 2020 (UTC)
I see! Sadly for us "scientific scumbags" we just assume that it's true and run with it from there hehehe! Although it's fascinating to think about the implications and even moreso that Chemistry cannot be purely reduced to Physics. No wonder we can only use crude approximations and very poor models to help us. Thanks for bringing it to my attention! Hopefully when things are a bit more calm this summer I'll have some time to pursue the article. DoctorQuoi ☎ 18:49, June 13, 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi

Eddy Currents

Having not listened to Hexagora (audio story) I'm not sure what all that page would say. However, at the top of the wiki, on the right hand side you should see something like "82,926 pages" and then to the right, "ADD". If you click "ADD", that should allow you to create a page. That would then create a page that you could fill in. I'll also note that you link to users by [[User:(Name here)]], not [[(Name here)]] Najawin ☎ 22:17, June 13, 2020 (UTC)

Understood, thank you very much user Najawin. Will make the page when I have some time today or tomorrow. DoctorQuoi ☎ 22:21, June 13, 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi

Re: still learning

Hi no problem. We do have a ton of rules that you will probably run up against, and I don't want to bore you now with all of them. Just to let you know, though, if you have any questions, you can ask any admin. Shambala108 ☎ 23:09, June 13, 2020 (UTC)

I see, thank you very much Shambala108! Yes I tried reading the many pages devoted to the editing style but it is very difficult to remember it all. I did try to pay particular attention to the image uploading policy as well as style and other such objectives. I will try be reserved in my edits for the first few months so I don't cause you admins too much headache haha, I am just a kind of person that needs to actively engage in the process to fully understand how it works, making mistakes and all, like most people. I will be more careful editing and will most certainly be asking you all questions when they arise! Thank you so much again! DoctorQuoi ☎ 23:21, June 13, 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi
Hi as long as you don't mind the corrections, and hopefully any edit summaries will try to explain what's been corrected. But you can always ask if there's a specific correction you don't understand. Shambala108 ☎ 23:28, June 13, 2020 (UTC)

Eddy currents

Hey there. With the Eddy Currents links you made, are you referring to a character mentioned in the audio story or the electrical currents? It is vital you make it clear which one you mean because right now, the link and grammar are very confusing, since the page link is a name but the works after don't follow naming grammar. Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 23:58, June 13, 2020 (UTC)

Individuals Who Have Kissed the Doctor Category

Hi DoctorQuoi, so I'm not an admin, so take what I say with a grain of salt, but in my opinion, yes, Nyssa should very much be counted.

Also, something I do know, is that we 100% cover books and audios, as well as other things. Does that help with your question? Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived ☎ 22:31, June 15, 2020 (UTC)

Forum

So remember how I mentioned the button to "ADD" pages? Similarly if you also look in the menu bar in that banner, there's "EXPLORE", which has a dropdown menu. "FORUM" will bring you to the forum. The two most active boards are "The Panopticon", sort of the general policy discussion board and "Inclusion debates", for if certain stories should be considered as "valid" under T:VALID. Najawin ☎ 22:52, June 15, 2020 (UTC)

No need to ask the forum these things. Usually using the talk pages, so, for example, Talk:Hexagora (audio story), would be the better place, unless it's a massive change. Like Never said. The forum is usually for bigger issues. Najawin ☎ 23:10, June 15, 2020 (UTC)
I see, thank you!! DoctorQuoi ☎ 23:13, June 15, 2020 (UTC)DoctorQuoi
Of course. The example I left is a page that doesn't yet exist, but, for example, Talk:TARDIS Eruditorum does, so you can see how people use the talk pages. Najawin ☎ 23:16, June 15, 2020 (UTC)

To be more specific, forum posts at Board:The Panopticon are for issues that affect multiple pages. If you have a question about one specific page, you can post it on the article's talk page (sometimes you may have to create it). And to repeat what I posted above, if you have any questions, please ask an admin. User:SOTO, User:OncomingStorm12th and I are the ones who mostly contribute to the wiki at this time. Thanks Shambala108 ☎ 23:21, June 15, 2020 (UTC)

RE: Individuals who have kissed the Doctor Category

Well, the category isn't for stories, it's just for characters. And, just to clarify, if there's a small, not really controversial change, then you can just go ahead. If it's slightly controversial, probably go over to the talk page of the page you're planning to edit. If it's a change or proposal that will affect multiple pages, head over to Board:The Panopticon. For admins, just go over to their talk pages and they'll usually have the answers. If you go here Special:Community, you'll be able to see all the admins. Best of luck with the plot summaries! Never Forget The Day The 456 Arrived ☎ 22:56, June 15, 2020 (UTC)

Working on a page

Hi you perhaps don't know that we have a template you can use if you're trying to do multiple edits for a page and want to keep others from editing while you're doing so. It's the {{inuse}} template. Put it at the top of the page, and don't forget to remove it when you're done. The template really shouldn't be on the page for more than 72 hours. See Template:Inuse to see what it looks like. Shambala108 ☎ 02:37, June 18, 2020 (UTC)

Plots

Hi, first of all, thanks for filling out plot summaries. There are so many that need to be filled out, and as someone who has done hundreds of them, I appreciate when others do so as well. I just need to point out that there are various formatting and punctuation issues when you copy/paste from other sources, so if possible, could you maybe start a sandbox page where you can work on summaries and then copy/paste from there? That would save a lot of tedious cleanup work. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎ 22:45, June 21, 2020 (UTC)

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