Theory:Torchwood television discontinuity and plot holes/To the Last Man

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• This episode shows a calendar dated Friday 20th (June 2008, Feb 2009 or March 2009). However, a poster in a hospital in Last of the Time Lords showed it was October, and Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang seems to be only hours after that.

The October Date is more likely to be a continuity error.

• Gwen witnesses Tommy's annual revival procedure for the first time, suggesting her adventures so far with Torchwood have taken place over less than a year, however this is not consistent with some of the dates provided for Season 1 episodes which suggest she was with Torchwood during the previous defrosting.

Jack may have chosen to not reveal this aspect of Torchwood to her at that time; or, it could simply have happened on her day off. Alternatively, as Owen states that Tommy is taken out of cryo every year or so, it's possible his scheduled unfreezing was delayed by events.

Can't say I agree with you there. In TW: Meat Rhys says "That's the first time you've told me the truth in what, a year?" suggesting that Gwen's work with torchwood has taken place in less than a year.

In response to both the above queries we do not have to presume that Torchwood stories are always presented to us in any chronological order. Although we can expect that they usually are.

• Tommy states that he is from Blackley in Lancashire but pronounces it "Black-lee". The correct pronunciation is more like "Blake-lee" (Wikipedia entry)

It may be how he pronounces it - pronunciations do change.

Possibly he was born there and moved away when he was a baby. He does mention he was part of the West Yorkshire Regiment, and his accent sounds more Yorkshire than Lancashire/Manchester. It could also be for the ease of the Torchwood team, as if you don’t know Manchester very well and see Blackley written down, you’ll probably pronounce it as written.

• Jack explains that time occurs in a linear fashion and bad things happen if it doesn't. The Doctor has contrarily stated that from a non-subjective point of view, time is not linear and "more like a big ball of wibbly, wobbly, timey-whimey stuff Blink .

The Doctor, usually travelling in a time machine, has a non-subjective view of time. Jack, whose vortex manipulator has been mostly broken for hundreds of years, has a subjective view of time, as he’s mostly been living through it in a linear way and has been part of events on Earth for centuries.