Talk:Dermot and the Doctor (TV story)

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Non-canon?[[edit source]]

It's not part of my canon, but I think we need to explain/justify the NC tag here. The only thing I see is, maybe, the fact that Dot Cotton knows who he is.
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I was suprised to see this as being non-canon without some discussion. Couldn't she know him from Dimensions in Time? Or do I have the wrong soap? --Revan\Talk 21:08, February 4, 2011 (UTC)

Invalid?[[edit source]]

Reopening this old question. I'm not really sure why this story is invalid when say, The Doctor Drops In is. On consulting the valid sources page I saw this noted under "invalid sources" but with no notes pertaining specifically to it, just a link to a rather small contemporary thread which ruled that, if Dimensions in Time be invalid, then this sketch must be invalid too. Now admittedly I don't entirely understand the reasoning for that story's invalidity either. I know there is the issue of the Doctor (since this is the Eleventh Doctor we're talking about here, not Matt Smith) being familiar with fictional soap opera characters, but I don't think this should really be a deal-breaker what with Assimilation² and Doctor Who (N-Space). MrThermomanPreacher 15:34, 22 March 2022 (UTC)

Having been curious why this story was invalid a few years back, prior to the absence of the Forums, I had found, IIRC, a thread for this story specifically.
At the conclusion, @CzechOut perplexingly ruled that because the Doctor met ostensibly real-world actors, and that it lead into a stageshow... it couldn't possibly be set in the DWU.
This is dumb, and makes no sense as it breaks none of the four little rules. @CzechOut has an odd belief that no real-world actors or elements, especially those connected to Doctor Who can also exist in-universe, and this fell under his opinion.
As for the ending, some sense can be seen as it does lead into a stageshow, which is not a valid source... but we treat lots of supplementary sources as valid even when the "main" source is invalid, e.g. for not being narrative, or having too many alternate versions of the narrative.
Long story short, this source should be valid, but isn't due to @CzechOut's misunderstanding of how fiction works, and we can't validate it without another Forum discussion... which we can't do because @CzechOut hasn't brought the Forums back despite promising for well over a year that he would. 16:57, 22 March 2022 (UTC)