Howling:5 Things to look for in Series 5
Over the course of the Series (5), Matt Smith and Steven Moffat have repeatedly said to look out for 5 things. I think I may have 3, The 3 I have is:
1) An Eye Ball - An Eye Ball that has stood out has been seen in the Eleventh Hour:
- Amy and The Doctor's close up of their eyes when they look around in the corner of their eye.
- The Atraxi's obvious Eye Ball.
- Victory of the Daleks:
- The New Daleks Eye Stalk has a more realistic eye ball in its socket.
2) Red Telephone - A Red Telephone that has stood out has been seen in the Eleventh Hour:
- A Red Telephone box located on the green of Leadworth
- The Beast Below:
- A Red Telephone box seen in the back ground of the london market in Starship UK
- Victory of the Daleks:
- There are many Telephones in the cabinet room and the one in the middle that stands out is the only red one which repeatedly rings thoughout the whole episode.
3) The Cracks - A Crack has been seen in all 3 episodes.
So could these be 3 of the 5 and if so what are the others?? Anyone else seen any other clues related to this topic only??? -- Michael Downey 20:54, April 17, 2010 (UTC).
Any Ideas?? -- Michael Downey 09:08, April 18, 2010 (UTC).
Here are some things people have posted in other threads (progressively less visual and more abstract):
- The number "0" is of course all over The Eleventh Hour, and it also features prominently in The Beast Below (floor 0, etc.). I haven't watched Victory of the Daleks too carefully yet (having too much fun just watching the story, the first time through), but I didn't see any 0s--in fact, they avoided using a 0 for their big dramatic bomb-explosion countdown by using the color wheel.
- The idea of a countdown--11s all over Eleventh Hour, Liz 10 in Beast Below. Again, I may have missed it, but I didn't see any prominent 9s in VotD.
- "Silence" was pretty obvious in Eleventh Hour, and was mentioned in Beast Below, but again, I didn't notice it in VotD.
- Time/history is somehow messed up. Rory's badge in Eleventh Hour, Amy's age being 2 years off visually vs. auditorily in the voting booth in Beast Below, and the blatant callout at the end of VotD all tie into this.
As for the phone--a red phone is not the same thing as a red phonebox. Especially in a show that's all about a phonebox. So, I don't know if that really counts. --99.37.227.199 09:19, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
Watching it again: No notable 0s. There is a countdown besides the color wheel thing, but it's from 30 rels, and we never hear 9. No silence. And the red phone is not the only one that rings; three phones ring, two are answered, and the only one that's used in the foreground, where we can hear what they're saying, is the green one. Having a red phone as the second most visible of 5 phones is not the same thing as prominently showing identical red phoneboxes in back-to-back episodes.
As for the eye--they do definitely zoom in on a closeup of the new-paradigm Dalek's eyestalk on first reveal, and they keep showing it. Not to mention that there are a lot more Dalek's-eye-view scenes than in most stories. So, you could be onto something there.
Two more things:
- Packing suitcases. I'll have to rewatch Beast Below, but Amelia in the first episode and Bracewell in the third both pack a suitcase as soon as the Doctor disappears from view.
- "There's something I've/we've forgotten"--that identical line appears in every episode. And it's called out pretty explicitly in the end of this one, and tied into the overarching story arc. Amy wants to know why he's worried, when it'll take the Daleks some time to rebuild their numbers, and he answers, "It's not that, there's something else. There's something we've forgotten. Or, rather, you have. You didn't know them, Amy. You'd never seen them before, and you should have done. You should." And then the TARDIS disappears, and the crack appears behind it. Can't get more blatant than that. --99.37.227.199 01:50, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
And one more: The Doctor is always late. He's making excuses for the TARDIS ("Type 40 TARDIS, still running her in"), and in the past he's often failed to be the most precise of temporal navigators, but it's strange that he's always late--never early, or in the wrong page--and that everyone calls him on it. --99.37.227.199 01:59, April 19,
2010 (UTC)
- In response to above, well spotted with the packing suitcases, I spotted that too but nothing similar in TBB and I can't think of any meaning behind it other than simply taking stuff with you when you go somewhere else.
- Also, if the Doctor was a month late in response to Churchill's phone call, why didn't Churchill ring again in the meantime ?
- I've suggested elsewhere maybe the memory wipe in the voting booth accounts for Amy not remembering the Daleks.
- Finally in response, admitedly not a blatant use of 9, but there were 9 Daleks in the episode, 6 new and 3 obliterated. Don't know if it ties in, but Amy's dream episode is 5 years later, and the Doctor is stranded for 4 days in the supposed Lodger episode.
- And a new suggestion, towards the episodes ends the Doctor reappears from elsewhere to where Amy and others are having "tied up loose ends" but these are not specified. Any thoughts ? 86.26.137.154 04:37, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
There are only 5 new Daleks, but if you count Bracewell... you look desperate :P Cannon881 07:40, April 19, 2010 (UTC)
There is the 20 minutes thing has been mentioned in all 3 episodes.
1. TLH: Easy to spot, 20 minutes to the end of the world.
2. TBB: Doctor says that amy's memory has been erased roughly by 20 minutes. Just after he enters the voting room and uses his screwdriver to examine the memory modification device ( looks like a light bulb)
3. VOTD: In the scene when doctor and amy talk to bracewell for the last time telling him they are just gonna pop into the tardis for this urgent thing and be right back. He says it might talk them , 10 minutes, then 15, then 20 and then half an hour.
Also 20 minutes is said by the doctor in all 3 episodes. Udbhav3000 12:52, April 20, 2010 (UTC)Link title
