Talk:Season 23 (Doctor Who 1963)
Season format
This season is described as having a unique format because the entire season consisted of a single story. However, in spite of being titled as a single story in 14 parts, there are clearly 4 distinct stories and an overarching story for the entire season. This means the season actually bears more similarity to Season 16 and even Season 8 than it does to Children of Earth and Miracle Day; as the two Torchwood seasons did not have "sub-stories". Craigysa ☎ 19:03, January 1, 2014 (UTC)
- It may have been filmed as four distinctive tales, but the story of the trial is so overarching that I would call it a single one. Season 16 doesn't even mention the Key much in some of its tales - The Androids of Tara (TV story) for example. --Silent Hunter UK ☎ 17:38, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
- Every single sub-story in Season 16 involves retrieval of a segment and the difficulties retrieving them. In some cases character decisions are specifically guided by the goal of obtaining the segment. By contrast, The Trial of a Time Lord is in fact less overarching, with the Trial simply tacked-on... In the first 3 stories, you could simply delete the court-room scenes, and each story would be a self-contained, standalone adventure. So there are clearly distinct stories within the season; whereas the aforementioned Torchwood seasons have absolutely no distinct sub-stories. Craigysa ☎ 10:44, January 5, 2014 (UTC)
"Four separate stories"?
The Bluray box set for Season 23 only lists one story - "The Trial of a Time Lord". Fan and production consensus has listed the season as one complete serial since 8,000 BC. Why has this changed? BigRockCola ☎ 07:02, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- I must have missed that memo. I've always treated it as a "Key to Time" situation. LauraBatham ☎ 07:13, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- Ongoing discussion at User talk:Scrooge MacDuck, User talk:NateBumber and User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon. Jack made some edits, such as at Joan Sims, with the edit summary saying "We don't consider The Mysterious Planet to be a story". Scrooge told him we do consider it a story, and then there's been a kerfuffle ever since. Najawin ☎ 09:07, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- Problem is that Jack has hugely misunderstood it all. Season 23 is a single story and should be treated as such, contrary to Jack's recent edits. Individual parts of a multi-part story are still a story. Season 23 is a convoluted and complicated instance, and we can’t just treat it as one or the other. The entirety of Season 23 is one huge serial, but it has 4 individual stories in it, but these stories are all part of one storyline, namely the Trial of a Time Lord. Danniesen ☎ 09:24, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- The same could be said about Flux. And just to be clear as to why I undid your edit, I'm not necessarily opposed to it, but it is something that requires a discussion, I think. Or at least admin approval. LauraBatham ☎ 09:34, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
- Ongoing discussion at User talk:Scrooge MacDuck, User talk:NateBumber and User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon. Jack made some edits, such as at Joan Sims, with the edit summary saying "We don't consider The Mysterious Planet to be a story". Scrooge told him we do consider it a story, and then there's been a kerfuffle ever since. Najawin ☎ 09:07, 10 January 2023 (UTC)