User:OttselSpy25/Commercial fiction sandbox

This is going to be a curated list of potential commercials/advertisements/idents that should be validated in the future, given specific circumstances.

Essentially, advertisements being disqualified for "not being narratives" and thus not fitting Rule 1 should be retired. Thusly, all "advertisements" which are more than just compilations of clips and images should be reconsidered under rule 4: if they are intended to take place in the Doctor Who Universe.

Stories where I'm certain

TV stories

• 2009 BBC Christmas idents - Famous "TARDIS with Reindeer" idents. Calling these commercials is a little iffy in the first place, as I don't think idents are advertisements. Nevertheless, these are TV stories with a narrative going on.
• Step Into the 80's! / On Through the 80's!
• Sprout Boy meets a Galaxy of Stars - This one could be debated, but the story being narrated by Peter Capaldi and ending on the reveal of the Twelfth Doctor makes it more a Doctor Who story than anyone else in the ad.
• CBBC idents - This can hopefully be fleshed out with more info? But it sounds like it might qualify
• Any of the Collection trailers... Which are mostly already counted as valid due to some loophole.

Webcasts

• The Ninth Doctor vs the Cybermen
• Doctor, Doctor, Doctor - Our judgement on invaliding Lego Dimensions fell entirely on the game having multiple-path easter eggs. So there's no reason to invalidate the shorts made to tie-into the game.
• Time Lord Victorious: Trailer (webcast)
• Strax Field Reports
• More Than Human... (webcast)
• He Who Fights With Monsters (webcast)

Short stories

• Can I Help You? (short story) - Short story printed on a t-shirt. It could be argued that the story "is a commercial item" since it's printed on a t-shirt. I think stories printed on paper and sold in books are also commercial items.
• The Cult of Skaro (short story)

Comic stories

• Dr Who and the Turgids - Story, at the very least qualifies for R4BP, as the TARDIS tuner has been evoked often in stories.
• On the Icy Edge of the Galaxy...

Audio stories

• Redacted - Presuming none of this appears in Redacted, I think it qualifies

Stories I'm less certain about

• The Trip of a Lifetime and similar trailers, leaning towards valid. No different from Twelve narrating about the Bootstrap paradox.
• Walls' Sky Ray lollies advertisement - Certainly has some story, but I wouldn't describe it as fiction trying to sell something. I'd say it's more like an advertisement with the aesthetics of a piece of fiction. I'm thinking this should invalid, with us using this as a precedent only for ads of this style.
• Famine Appeal - I'm leaning towards non-valid for things like this, but I would have to hear from my peers.
• Christmas Gift Guide: LEGO set - This is lost now, but I recall at the time thinking it shouldn't be valid. Same for the two other Christmas Gift Guides.
• Friend from the Future - I can say with certainty that this should be valid, but I think it would need a stand-alone debate.
• Meet the Thirteenth Doctor - This one is odd, because I don't think it qualifies for Rule 4. Unless there's some story that mentions this or gives context to why the Doctor is dressed how she is, I don't think it's R4BP either.
• Doctor Who: 50 Years (trailer) - Another great example where we can't say it was intended to be set in the DWU, but if someone can find a quote indicating I'm wrong I'll change my tune.

Advertisements which do not qualify

• Doctor Who and the Ambassadors of Death (trailer) - this is an important case, as this is essentially a regular trailer showing clips from the next episode, but with some new linking segments. This alone does not make it qualify for rule 1, let alone rule 4.
• Death of the Doctor (trailer) - Also the same situation
• Denys Fisher Toys Advert
• BBC Choice ident - was clearly not intended to fit into the DWU
• It's Showtime (2012 BBC Christmas ident)
• Consider Yourself One Of Us... (2011 BBC Christmas ident)
• Everyone's Home For Christmas (2011 BBC Christmas ident)
• 2016 BBC Christmas ident
• 2014 BBC Christmas ident
• 2010 BBC Christmas ident