Theory:Doctor Who television discontinuity and plot holes/Doomsday

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• When Rose was about to fall in when Pete rescued her, wouldn't he have been sucked in? He can't have been that quick to teleport.

Pete would not have been exposed to as much of the Void stuff as he had only been transported across the void about 3 times, compared with the Daleks and the Cybermen who had spent years crossing the void and would be completely coated in the void radiation. Also it is possible that the technology was that quick.

• How would he have known when and where to teleport to grab her or that she even needed saving?

He didn't need to know where to teleport as the teleporter goes to the same spot in the other world, and he caught her on instinct/reflex.

• How does the Doctor know 'hope' is going to come with Jake's return?

Perhaps he can see the breach showing signs of something travelling through the void?  In the episode 'Fear Her, the Doctor is able to sense the energy that stole the children. Maybe that applies here as well. But more like he didn't...because that would be "knowledge" not "hope".  The Doctor spoke of "hope" because he didn't know how he would escape certain death but had "hope" that "something" would intervene...and he was right. He said hope becasue a deleted part of the script was the Doctor and the CyberLeader talking about emotions.

• How did Rose know that she had used the Time Vortex at the Heart of the TARDIS to destroy the Dalek Emperor? She didn't remember anything at the end of DW: The Parting of the Ways.

There was ample opportunity over the course of the intervening season for the Doctor to explain anything which Rose may have forgotten, which is likely as she may of questioned why he had to change further.

• The Doctor tells Mickey that if the Cult of Skaro tried to open the Genesis Ark by force they would have destroyed the sun. How could he possibly know this with no knowledge of the Genesis Ark or the technology available to the Daleks?

He may be aware of the device, but not know what it looks like. Alternatively, he could just be attempting to make Mickey feel better so that he doesn't break down thinking he had destroyed the world. Alternatively and most likely the Doctor knows the Daleks of old and also knows the extremes they go to in order to get to their goal.

• When Rose and The Doctor are sucking the Daleks and Cybermen into the Void, Rose's switch is pulled down. She pulls the switch back up and the switch locks. Why didn't the switch lock the first time?

The Doctor could have been in a rush to suck in the Daleks and the Cybermen into the void and could've forgotten to lock Rose's switch.

• When the void first opens, pieces of paper are seen floating around. How would they be attracted to the Void if the paper obviously hasn't traveled through the Void.

The Void could be creating enough energy to blow some paper around.

Also, the Daleks and Cybermen being pulled into the void would displace air as they flew toward the breach; this air movement could cause the paper to fly around.

• Shouldn't the TARDIS and the Daleks' Void ship have sucked into the Void as well? The TARDIS should have had Void stuff from when it travelled to Pete's World.

The Doctor probably put it in 'park'. That, and the TARDIS was several hundred floors down inside Torchwood Tower itself.

But the void pulled in Daleks and Cybermen from across the globe, considerably more distance than from the base of Torchwood Tower.

The TARDIS was mostly dead when it landed in Pete's World - maybe the void stuff can't “stick” to inert objects.

The Void Ship was designed to travel across the void and doesn't register mass, temperature, etc. It is “invisible” to the Void and thus unaffected by it.

• Why were all the Cybermen sucked into the Void? Many of them had been converted on earth, and so had never been through the Void - such as Yvonne and Lisa in Torchwood. Lisa wasn't pulled through, yet all of the others appear to have.

It is possible that the materials used to make the Cybermen was brought through the void with the cybermen and so would have gotten void radiation on it. as Lisa was one of the last converted, the Cybermen may have run out of materials from Pete's World and used materials from this world, meaning that she would not have been pulled into the void.