Forum:Premature page policies - again

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Spoilers are strongly policed here.
If this thread's title doesn't specify it's spoilery, don't bring any up.

I want to bring this up again. I really do think we shouldn't have these pages before the episode airs. As I stated before "We are not a news organization. We are an encyclopaedia which documents that which has happened, not that which will." As far as I can tell, there's no benefits to the page being created early, but there are benefits if we wait.

1. Titles of episodes and character names are subject to change until the moment the episode airs. This removes that possibility.

   Note: The change from The Pandorica Opens to The Pandorica Opens (TV story) took about 24 hours using a bot, and even then it didn't get everything.

2. The rumours and such don't get out of hand.
3. The page will not be deleted countless times until "enough information" is gathered.
4. Time can be spent doing other things to improve the wiki, not necessary things because someone can't wait a few weeks.

These are the benefits of waiting to create articles, something which I truly think we should consider doing. --The Thirteenth Doctor 22:20, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

If we're really concerned about rumours and such, why not create a very basic page - "X is the Yth story of series Z" - as soon as the title is confirmed by reputable sources, and then just lock it until broadcast. A template with notices describing our policies against material which has not yet aired can be placed on the locked page. Having this up and viewable will discourage all the other problems apart from possible renaming, planning and discussion for the eventual unlocking can still take place on the article's talk page, and when the time comes we can easily unlock the page and quickly get it up to standard.

So long as there are missing pages, people will want to create them, and despite not being a news organisation we've inherited those enthusiastic viewers because of our status as a major reference work. With this plan I believe we can prevent our readers and users from jumping the gun, and drastically cut down the amount of housework the advanced users have to do. All we'll then have to worry about are the possible title changes as you say, but at the end of the day that's not a horrible piece of housework to accomplish and the redirects will preserve the site's functionality in the meantime. Rob T Firefly 22:39, October 12, 2010 (UTC)

I can see what you're saying. That would work for episodes, and an admin can fully protect it until a certain time, ie when it airs. For characters and actors and such, I'm still against any pages being created. It's a compulsion to fill in those damned red links is what does it, which is why I can see your idea working. --The Thirteenth Doctor 22:47, October 12, 2010 (UTC)