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Forum:Years - Separate pages or Century pages

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Should we have large collected articles like the Early human history and the 12th century, 14th century, 15th century articles, or should we have specific year-based articles for information.

The way we follow information generally is 'if it's mentioned then it gets a page', so if a year is mentioned then shouldn't it get a page?

Alternatively, if information is to be gathered on these century articles where is the threshold of information between having it all on one page and moving it away to an individual year, is it more than one entry, more than three?

Or, should the century pages just be used for information that mentions the century but it vague about a specific year and everything that actually mentions a year gets a page? --Tangerineduel / talk 15:35, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

My stance is that the year pages are different in that if we had some year pages for a certain time period, than we'd have to have pages for every year of that time period because otherwise we'd have a huge number of red links. This is justified for the 19th, 20th, and 21st centuries (and maybe the 18th), but if we had individual year pages for earlier periods, we'd have large numbers of year pages which would have no information in them (since they've never been mentioned in context of the DWU - only a few years of each century have any data on them). Therefore, I favor the large collected articles. Doug86 15:44, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
Well, no. We don't need to have pages where we have no content. (We did at one point, but that was when the wiki was being setup and a lot of pages were created with nothing on them) We just have pages for where we do have content, where they are mentioned specifically. The template would show them as red links, but that doesn't mean we have to create them. --Tangerineduel / talk 15:58, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
If an event has happened in either 1602, 4567 or 2009, we should create the relevent date page. Conbinding these events into a century page is a ridiculous idea? Do we merge all the minor characters from Series 5? No. Do we merge all pages that are a couple of sentences long? No. We have made a different page for everything. This should therefore mean we create a page for a date that has either 1, 2 or 100 odd events in it. The main century pages (i.e 12th century, 16th century, 21st century) should be kep with the dates listed and any key events that happened mention there.
If a date as no event, no page will be created, but if we don't create a page for say, 1234, something could have already happened in a past adventure, say with the Fifth Doctor, and this is recorded on the 13th century page. No what happens when a television adventure or another adventure takes place during this time? A page for 1234 will be created, and we will have information for 1234 all over the place. But if we were to created a page for 1234 and had the formation about the fifth Doctor's adventure already there, it means we can easily add information recording a new adventure in that year instead of having it in two places.
Thirdly, the length of the article should have nothing to do with regards to if it stays as a date or a century page. If we have one adventure in the year 1514, then we make a page for 1514 and fill in what that adventure was. Even if it's a sentence long, so length should have nothing to do with it, as decided in the Howling Halls talk page.
So basically, create a page for the year no matter how many adventures take place during that year, and link the century page to it. If no adventure takes place during a year, create no page for it and don't create a link for it on the century page.Mini-mitch\talk 16:15, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

A year doesn't need to have an adventure to have a page. As long as it's mentioned it should be created.----Skittles the hog--Talk 16:57, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

I think that we should have individual year pages for any years mentioned or referenced and the century pages should just have general trends or events of an unknown date. It's a show about time-travel; I think it's important to have these sorts of pages. -<Azes13 17:01, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

While all this sounds fine in theory, the problem with it is that we'd end up having a huge number of red links for every year of a certain century which is not mentioned, or a huge number of pages with almost no content. For example, only 15 of the 100 years of the 15th century have been specifically referred to in the DWU, which means we'd have either 85 red links cluttering up the Wanted Pages section, or 85 pages in which the entire content would be "nothing yet". This is why I favor having all the years of one century on that century's page (with individual years being redirects as necessary) up until the point where that would be impractical. The best cut-off point would probably be the 18th century. Doug86 22:48, June 30, 2011 (UTC)
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