Howling:The Fall of the Eleventh

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So, thanks to Dorium we know that on the fields of Trenzalore at the fall of the Eleventh, a question will be asked. Is it a coincidence that the current Doctor is the Eleventh? Maybe the Eleventh Doctor is destined to regenerate on the fields of Trenzalore. It isn't unusual for the Doctor's regeneration to cause dialogue like: Companion: Who are you? New Doctor: I'm the Doctor. Companion: What do you mean you're the Doctor? Doctor Who? Since apparently no living creature can speak falsely or refuse to answer a question, the Doctor could be forced to answer the question literally, thus leading to silence somehow falling.Icecreamdif talk to me 18:17, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

This is just a tag to make sure I get notified as this topic is debated. I think it likely Moffat chose that designation to be provocative.Boblipton talk to me 20:51, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

"I think it likely Moffat chose that designation to be provocative": "Likely" is putting it extremely mildly; "totally certain" would be nearer the mark! It won't have escaped Moffat that "fall" is a word with several meanings of which "death" is only one. --89.241.74.8 00:30, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

I think that after two years of "silence will fall," we can be sure that Moffat has noticed that "fall" has several meanings. The question is really does "the fall of the eleventh" refer to the Eleventh Doctor, or is it just a random phrase that he chose, that currently means as little to us as "Trenzalore" does.Icecreamdif talk to me 02:44, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

put it this way, i believe the chance that the number 11 is a coincidence is about infinity to none. i mean, why else would he use the number 11 in the name. it just isn't the kind of thing that turns out to be a coincidence on this show. oh, and boblipton, how do you get it so your notified of further discussion in a thread? i always find that i just have to keep comming back to the howling page to find out what's new. Imamadmad talk to me 09:04, October 14, 2011 (UTC)


I don't uncheck the box to let me know of further editing on a page.Boblipton talk to me 12:21, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Okay, this could be completely off but I'm re-watching "Silence in the Library" just...for the fun of it and I know that nothing had really been set in stone about the 6th series back then but the crash of the Byzantium did come up. The Doctor says that he can't be sure that River didn't pluck it from his cold dead hands and then she whispers his name in his ear. If the only way that he can speak his name is when he's dying - he still wouldn't be sure that she didn't just take it from him after his death? Toppingdaywhat_spiffing (The date didn't show up, not sure why. Sorry about that.)