Howling:How Series 6 Should Have Been

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Some fans were not pleased with the structure of Series 6, and I know someone also thought this on another discussion, because they felt it was slightly too rushed. Some of the episodes were not completely suited to be one parters. Here's how I think it should have been:

• The Impossible Astronaut
• Day of the Moon
• Curse of the Black Spot
• The Doctor's Wife
• The Almost People (squeezing the whole ganger thing into one episode)
• A Good Man Goes to War

A break, like there was in the real series.

• Let's Kill Hitler
• Night Terrors
• The Girl Who Waited
• The God Complex
• Closing Time
• (a sort of first part to the finale, with a title I made up): The Universe of Chaos
• The Wedding of River Song

As you can probably tell I wasn't a fan of the ganger episodes (they were so boring) but the alternate universe we saw in the finale was a good idea, I thought, and they could have incorporated a sub plot into the finale had they made it a two parter. I'm interested if anyone else thought the series structure was flawed. 77.86.9.25^{talk to me} 16:49, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

so, basically what you're saying is, make the ganger episodes one episode and make the finale a two parter. i wouldn't say the structure was flawed, just that some of the episodes needed a different ammount of time compared to what was given.

ps, i agree Imamadmad ^{talk to me} 20:59, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Well, not everyone liked the structure. Some didn't like that it opened with a two parter. Some didn't like the break in the middle. I'm just interested in which things most didn't feel right about the Series. 77.86.9.25^{talk to me} 21:38, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

The "ganger" two-parter did have its flaws and it might have been better compressed into one episode. The finalé was, I fully agree, far too rushed and had a much stronger claim on the extra episode than the "ganger" story. The finalé was more fun and also had more story. --89.241.67.8^{talk to me} 01:48, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

I pretty much agree with 77. The only thing that I would do differently would be to cut out Night Terrors, which was by far the weakest episode of the season, and make A Good Man Goes to War into a 2-parter. I also don't think that a show that only has 13 episodes in a season should really have a mid-season break. The Wedding of River Song definetly would have worked better as a 2-parter though, and The Rebel Flesh/The Almost People would have worked much better as a single part episode.Icecreamdif ^{talk to me} 15:13, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

I can see why you might not have liked Night Terrors, but I quite enjoyed it. I was considering moving NT into the first part of the series on the list, because it had a much lighter tone that would have felt better there, but then I remembered the creepy nursery rhyme, which actually turned out to be a good incorporation to the whole story arc of the Doctor dying. Had it been in the place of episode 3 or something the nursery rhyme arc might not have been as effective. If the Gangers had not been important to the arc I would probably have scrapped TRF/TAP entirely. 94.72.237.220^{talk to me} 16:53, January 17, 2012 (UTC) and yes my IP adress has changed from 77 to 94.

The nursery rhyme was all right, although it didn't quite make sense that the dolls would know the Doctor's fate, or that Kovarian would know the nursery rhyme, but overall the episode wasn't very good. Oftentimes, just going with a monster that is designed to be scary ends up just feeling kind of gimicky. Moffat was very good at doing good scary stories back when RTD was in charge, but noone else seems to be as good at it. Stories like The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances or Blink had good stories in addition to scary monsters. Night Terrors, however, just had a pretty boring story. Besides, A Good Man Goes to War really should have been a two parter.Icecreamdif ^{talk to me} 19:14, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

Let's Kill Hitler could have been a two parter simply because it would mean Mels would not seem like a last minute idea. The finale was a tad rushed too.--82.11.57.232^{talk to me} 20:33, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

The only way that Mels would have really worked would have been if they had introduced her before A Good Man Goes to War. I mean, did anybody actually not figure out who Mels was as soon as they heard her name, after having learned River's real name. If Mels had been introduced before we learned the name "Melody Pond," then the revelation that she was actually River would probably have been shocking, but as it was it was pretty obvious. Introducing her earlier would also have given them more time to establish the character so that it wouldn't seem like she just came out of nowhere.Icecreamdif ^{talk to me} 03:43, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

also, they had a part mentioning the name mels in one of the preview clips on the bbc website before lets kill hitler aired, which yet again removed more of the mystery from her as anyone who had seen the clips would probably have made the connection before the character was even introduced properly in her mels form. the name should have deffinately been mentioned all the way back in series 5, preferably in 11th hour, which would have made it a lot less obvious that mels was melody. unless they wanted it to be that mels only grew up with amy and rory in the renewed timeline. and don't criticise me for spoiling things for myself.

also, i liked night terrors. it was a simpler story, but a good one all the same. although it could have looked better for me because it was surrounded by bad episodes on either side. just imo. and the nursery rhyme was suggested to be a well known one in wedding of river song (winston churchill said something along the lines of "tick tock goes the clock. that's what the old nursery rhyme says. but they don't, do they doctor"). Imamadmad ^{talk to me} 05:02, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Well, everyone has their own opinions of which episodes are better. Personally, while I thought that Let's Kill Hitler was not one of the season's better episodes, it was still better than Night Terrors, and The Girl Who Waited was one of the season's better episodes. Anyway, Mels should definetly have been mentioned back in season 5. When I first heard her name in the preview clip, I assumed that we would spend the next several months on these forums speculating as to whether or not Mels and River were the same person, but instead she just regenerated 10 minutes after she was introduced. Since she was the one who got Amy and Rory to go out together in the first place, I think we have to assume that that is how the timeline always worked. My guess would be that the reason that she wasn't mentioned in season 5 was that Moffat hadn't come up with that particular plot point yet. I have no idea how far ahead he plans these things, but I'm guessing that she would have made some kind of appearance if he had come up with her as early as The Eleventh Hour. Still, he could have given her a cameo or something in Let's Kill Hitler, though perhaps he decided that three Rivers (four if you count the version in Amy's womb (well, I guess it was just Ganger-Amy)) was more than enough for one episode.Icecreamdif ^{talk to me} 05:22, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Moffat may not have thought of Mels before the Series 5 scripts were finalised and, in any case, there wasn't that much room in The Eleventh Hour to introduce her. Her absence from the wedding in The Big Bang was (sort of) explained in retrospect. Introducing her earlier in Series 6 would have been better, however, especially if it had been done before A Good Man Goes to War, so that we knew she was the friend after whom Amy named her daughter. The similarity of name would then have seemed quite normal. Even when River revealed that she was Melody Pond, Mels would still have seemed like a separate character -- just the source of the name Melody. In terms of story arc, Night Terrors could have been dispensed with but story arc isn't (certainly shouldn't be) everything. It was a good story in itself. The Doctor's Wife is in the same category, not essential to the story arc but well worth having for its own sake. --89.242.76.108^{talk to me} 07:39, January 18, 2012 (UTC)