Forum:Love Life of the Doctor?
Not trying to sound crude here, just curious, but does the Doctor have sex? Everyone else around him seems to be doing it, and his ninth incarnation seemed interested on more than one occasion, for example with Jabe in "the End if the World," and possibly responding to Jack's flirting on occasion. -Littlblueyes
- Seeing as how he apparently has a spouse and child, I would think that at one time, he did. Unless Time Lords reproduce in different ways... Trak Nar Ramble on 05:59, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
...and I suppose if that is the case, he wouldn't really want little half-TimeLords running around the universe. Littlblueyes 06:44, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
- I would say yes, but presumably it has different cultural significance to earth. I guess he saves it for those who really...deserve it (deseve's not the word). But considering he had kids and I think the tv series has abandoned the loom theory, then yes. I think he just has a lot of control over himself, possibly due to the number of relationships he has had with companions (plutonic). Taccer 07 18:09, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- Platonic. -- Noneofyourbusiness 18:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
- The 9th Doctor made it clear that he does "dance," just not as promiscuously as Jack. Known examples:
- * The 1st Doctor had a wife and child. Either that, or Susan is The Other's granddaughter but knows that The Doctor is The Other resurrected through the Looms, and it was a later Doctor who had a wife and child.
- * The 4th Doctor and 2nd Romana certainly acted like a couple who had recently started sleeping together. This can be explained out-of-universe by the fact that Tom Baker and Lalla Ward had recently started sleeping together, but that doesn't matter in-universe.
- * The 8th Doctor slept with Benny Summerfield at the end of The Dying Days.
- * The 10th Doctor married Queen Elizabeth I, and she is no longer the Virgin Queen.
- * Some future Doctor will probably sleep with River Song. --99.170.146.147 09:57, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
- Platonic. -- Noneofyourbusiness 18:55, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
What about, whatserface? Madame De Pompadour... Whenever Steven Moffat writes something, dance indirectly tends to mean had sex. I believe there was a situation where Madame De Pompadour asked the Doctor to dance with her, and then it went off-screen from them. Later, he was a s high as a kite, and he said he believed he had "invented" the banana something (forgot banana what exactly) a couple of centuries early after "dancing" with her. Basically, he was saying he invented a form of sexual action a couple of centuries early. Well, you know what I mean! There was obvious strong romance between them, and she went right on and snogged him. No doubt that the Doctor and Madame De Pompadour "danced". Especially after it went off-screen from them after a dance reference and he came back a while later.
Then there was also River Song. He asked her why she had handcuffs, and she looked at him, grinned slightly, and said in a flirterous tone, "Spoilers!" Both episodes were written by Moffat, so we can all safely say that it a sexual reference.
So the truth is, yeah, the Doctor does have sex. We all should realise that by now. Heck, on a show where various Doctor Who actors were there, David Tennant was asked whether he thinks the Doctor and some of the companions have ever "done it" while traveling. He didn't really know hwo to reply, but you can tell he agreed. Delton Menace 13:44, December 28, 2009 (UTC)
- Yeah, I already mentioned River Song, but I forgot about Madame de Pompadour.
- Anyway, the old show may have had a strict restriction against "hanky panky in the TARDIS" involving even just humans (but honestly, even if you believe Barbara made Ian wait until he put a ring on her finger, do you think Ben and Polly never fooled around?), and the novels did away with Time Lord sex even for reproduction, but the new show has clearly thrown all that away. The Doctor is anatomically correct, and takes advantage of that fact. --99.170.146.147 00:41, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
The old show never really went into it, the novels did away with Time Lord Sex, and then the revived series following on from the old series clearly says they do have sex (well, not directly, but it does). That really questions the canoninity of the novels. I honestly always go by what the TV series says. Because the old show didn't go there and never said anything about what we hear in the novels, and the revived series has them "doing it", there goes their continuity. Don't they also contadict each other by what happens to Time Lords in their young age, too? Families?
Anyway, as we were saying, I think the revived series will further the sex thing with Moffat taking over. He likes them little references and the one-off occasional romance (okay, a little more than romance in this subject). I would honestly call someone an idiot if they denied the Doctor had sex. The show just isn't aloud to say it straightforward, but it does love its references. :) Delton Menace 12:43, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
- Well, in the novels, even if the Time Lords don't have sex with each other, they regularly have sex with humans. The Doctor had sex with Benny. And Andred with Leela (who had a child, the first one conceived by "traditional" means since the Curse of Pythia). And Susan with David (who tried and failed to conceive).
- In the old show, I don't think they ever wanted us to believe that the Time Lords don't have sex, so much as they wanted to create a family show where we don't talk about such things. Very late in the series, they did allow a couple of teenage girls to imply that they weren't virgins, but even then, the line about an actual companion, Ace, not being one either thanks to Sabalom Glitz was struck out.
- At any rate, they did strongly imply that Susan and David, and Andred to Leela, got married--and I think we can probably assume that Susan and Andred... fulfilled their conjugal duties... even if they never came out and said so.
- So, with or without the novels, Time Lords have sex, with humans. --99.157.75.211 23:41, December 31, 2009 (UTC)
You're making me picture that there is a law against Time Lords having sex with each other, so they go for all genetically similar specials (like humans). Has anyone ever wondered about Time Lord sexuality, as strange as the subject is? I was watching The Unicorn and the Wasp, and Donna was ranting about how "all the good guys are on the other bus (gay)", and then the Doctor said "or Time Lords." With the Doctor saying that, he implied that Time Lords can be "on the other bus", too. Weird, but interesting, subject if you ask me.
I don't know whether it was Davind Tennant or Russell T. Davies, but I rememember one of them mentioned that there was sexual tension between the Doctor and Rose Tyler, so that says it all about Time Lords getting it on with humans(or similar species), too. I personally believe Doctor Who is a little bit above a family show because it explores themes that others don't, such as heavily emotion impact, loss, love, sexual tension/references, sexuality, death (there is lots of death in it), revenge and hatred, and occasionally has blood, and has been known to venture into some dark areas. But, that is what makes it so different and brilliant. Delton Menace 15:07, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
- Well, I don't think there's a law against Time Lords having sex. The reason we see Time Lords hooking up with humans is two-fold.
- The old show implied many times--most notably with Leela--that us short-lived humans have a kind of intensity and excitement that Time Lords don't. Which would explain why The Doctor is so attracted to humans in general, and why Susan and Andred married humans.
- And the Time Lords in question are not exactly normal. The Doctor is a renegade, racing through the universe looking for excitement. As Susan told David, she never felt like she had a home on Gallifrey (although she didn't mention Gallifrey, of course). Also, neither of the had much chance to meet other Time Lords, being fugitives and all. As for Andred, he was bored with Gallifreyan life, but didn't want to actually leave, so when a human woman appeared on Gallifrey, it was his lucky day. But most Time Lords are presumably happy with Time Lord society, and with other Time Lords.
- And meanwhile, I still think The Doctor and Romana II were sleeping together.
- Anyway, in the new series, The Doctor is older and wiser, and he's realized the downside to that excitement--she whose flame burns 10 times as bright burns one tenth as long. He can't bear the thought of falling in love with Rose and watching her grow old and die as he barely ages at all. So, while he can have flings with people when they both know it can't be permanent (Madame de Pompadour), he can't have a real committed relationship with a human, and he's too honest to fool one into thinking otherwise.
- But notice that both times he's been given a way out of that trap--as John Smith, and as the human metacrisis Doctor--he's jumped at the chance to live happily ever after with a human.
- As for gay Time Lords, two words: The Master. They've even made a joke about that on the new series. ("Does he still have that rubbish beard?" "No... Well, a wife.")
- Anyway, JNT wouldn't have gone out of his way to write in Time Lords in a gay relationship unless it was somehow a good plot hook--but if you'd asked him, I'm sure he would save said that around 10% of them are gay, just like humans. And RTD would have gone out of his way, but since he didn't have Time Lords through his run with the series, there was no opportunity. --99.157.75.211 04:44, January 2, 2010 (UTC)
