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Hi, I've been working on the BBC's Doctor Who Adventures title recently as a route to getting some of the Tenth Doctor's comic strip adventures covered. And I came across another page (well I did look at it first to be honest!), and I thought I should just explain why I didn't use the existing Doctor Who Adventures page, in favour of Doctor Who Adventures (Magazine) before anyone asks.
Quite simply, although the printed title is Doctor Who Adventures, it is referred to in articles and interviews as Doctor Who Adventures magazine. In various contexts the term "Doctor Who adventures", could be ambiguous, and "magazine" (because the title isn't a comic), could be confused with Panini's Doctor Who Magazine.
With the title only now, having gone weekly, there was the possibility of it being called Doctor Who Weekly, but as that title has already been used, Doctor Who Adventures Weekly, could have been another possibility.
As the abbreviation DWAN already exists for Doctor Who annual, I took the decision to add M, so that the abbreviation COMIC could be used with specific reference to the BBC title, but dropped the M for specific issue coverage. Hope its not muddled thinking. Any comments? The Librarian 00:09, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Consistency and stuff making sense should be at the core of all of this.

So as to abbreviations it should make sense, both within the individual articles (and their names) and within the wider scope.

So DWAN should either mean Doctor Who annuals or Doctor Who Adventures, but it shouldn't be that half the time as with DWA 1 and then COMIC.

So in order to make this make sense all the DWA Issues articles would need to me changed to DWAM Issue X etc. The alternative would be to change the prefix DWAN for Doctor Who Annuals to be something else (though I can't really think of a different logical prefix for Doctor Who Annuals).

This would also (with regards to DWAM) make it fall into line with DWM (the M being for magazine) so both magazines would have M in the abbreviations and the prefix. --Tangerineduel 02:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Doctor Who annuals are rarly mentioned so perhaps their abbreviantion should be DWAN Doctor Who An(nual).

Are we agreed then that the word 'Magazine' should be incorporated into the title (somewhere) for the 'Doctor Who Adventures' title, or just to reference the title as a whole, not the individual issues? I'm happy to do the re-edits but Annuals wouldn't normally be referrred to in their individual titles as 'Issue 1' etc.would they? The Doctor Who Adventures (Magazine) main page provides the individual issue links as DWA, and at this stage there are few other links within the site to individual issues, if thats worth considering. More comment needed.

Annuals could possibly be DWAY (Doctor Who Annuals and Yearbooks) to incorporate the other annual title of the storybook! Just a thought. The Librarian 21:04, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

It's the 'at this stage' thing that worries me, at this stage, yeah there isn't much, but when we start referencing the comic strips...

(I've made a start on the comic strips at the moment and will pick it up again soonThe Librarian 01:14, 7 February 2008 (UTC))

...or anything else (behind the scenes stuff that may be used as bibliography/as a reference in the future).

DWAY is a possibility of a way to go. But again as to the 'rarely mentioned' comment, that's now, but that doesn't mean in the future there won't be more work done concerning the annuals.

As I said before if you're going to include the 'Magazine' as part of the title then it should all flow as a logical progrogression into the abbreviation and article titles. But have one or the other not a combination of both. DWA Issue X makes enough sense, but then the article and abbreviation should be that also, or alternatively the article title Doctor Who Adventures (magazine) should then have the articles DWAM and DWAM Issue X, all the same.

Also if you change around DWA to something else be sure to change all the links that link to that page (see 'What links here' in toolbox on left hand side of screen) so we don't have abbreviations for the annuals pointing to the magazine (if that's the route you think is the best to go). --Tangerineduel 14:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi, you don't need to worry about the "at this stage" comment, I see the longer view (congrats. by the way for being ahead of me!), I simply meant, better to sort it out now rather than later. I thought I had tidied up the 'what links here' links but I'll go back and check. Several of them indeed were my own, indicating the indecisive nature perhaps of the title. I tried to think how the articles would be searched for and felt that for the title as a whole it seemed appropriate to include 'magazine' in the article title so as to distinguish it from a more general search. When it comes to the individual issues (and its still early days yet) it is always referred to as DWA issue X. This poses the problem that a search for a specific issue wouldnt necessarily be referred to as DWAM and so wouldnt bring up the links from the search.
As all the individual issues are linked to each other from the Magazine article page, referencing to the Magazine wouldn't be a problem as DWAM stands as the accepted (!?) abbreviation for the publication title.

There doesn't have to be a DWA abbreviation at all as the magazine title has its own DWAM abreviation and individual issues would be referenced as such.

I've tried to explain my thinking, I hope clearer, because I still can't see how yet, if at all,what more acceptable changes to make for the better. The Librarian 01:14, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Archivist's note

As far as I can see, the issues raised here have never been settled in the forums. See also Forum:Why do prefixes link as they do? and Forum:Why do prefixes link as they do: revisited. It remains a concern that DWAN means Doctor Who Annuals (and really more than just DW annuals) whereas we've introduced an M (where none actually features in the title of the magazine) to form COMIC. In practice, though, DWA and DWAM are being used precisely as the thread describes. It has been decided in another forum thread, though, that issue titles for DW Adventures will be in the format DWA 23. So the idea of a mismatch between the prefix and the issue nomenclature still exists and probably should be addressed in a new thread.
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