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'''Every single item on the series 6 page which derives from this site, or any site like it, should be immediately removed from the wiki.''' | '''Every single item on the series 6 page which derives from this site, or any site like it, should be immediately removed from the wiki.''' | ||
Remember, just because you can find ''a'' reference on the internet doesn't mean it's a ''good'' reference. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | Remember, just because you can find ''a'' reference on the internet doesn't mean it's a ''good'' reference. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''19:02:01 Mon '''28 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
:There has been thing i noticed on that site. Like 'Fan X has stopped this' and it become major news on the site. It should be used of two thing: rumours and casting, which of course mention an official source, or back up on. I don't think everything should be removed. Series 6 should remain as it is, and from now on(or from Series 7 (if there is one)), we then take a tougher view on sources. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 19:14, March 28, 2011 (UTC) | :There has been thing i noticed on that site. Like 'Fan X has stopped this' and it become major news on the site. It should be used of two thing: rumours and casting, which of course mention an official source, or back up on. I don't think everything should be removed. Series 6 should remain as it is, and from now on(or from Series 7 (if there is one)), we then take a tougher view on sources. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 19:14, March 28, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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Avoid using non-peer-reviewed sources such as Wikipedia, the Internet Movie Database, or even the TARDIS Index File as cited sources for information such as airdates, casting, etc.|[[tardis:Manual of Style#Sources]]}} | Avoid using non-peer-reviewed sources such as Wikipedia, the Internet Movie Database, or even the TARDIS Index File as cited sources for information such as airdates, casting, etc.|[[tardis:Manual of Style#Sources]]}} | ||
::The site itself identifies as "completely unofficial". Case closed. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ::The site itself identifies as "completely unofficial". Case closed. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''20:35:11 Mon '''28 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
I have to take the blame for this. I was the person that started using D.W.S as a active source, so I apologise, BUT I do have a point to make. Soem of the facts are true, like episode 3's name is ''The Doctor's Wife'' and they have extensive CV sources that notify them when a casting decision is made. Mabye, instead of totally blacklisting it, we should only use casting sources? I know it would be hard and it's breaking the manual of style, but some of the facts are true. --[[User:Ghastly9090|Ghastly9090]] 15:08, March 29, 2011 (UTC) | I have to take the blame for this. I was the person that started using D.W.S as a active source, so I apologise, BUT I do have a point to make. Soem of the facts are true, like episode 3's name is ''The Doctor's Wife'' and they have extensive CV sources that notify them when a casting decision is made. Mabye, instead of totally blacklisting it, we should only use casting sources? I know it would be hard and it's breaking the manual of style, but some of the facts are true. --[[User:Ghastly9090|Ghastly9090]] 15:08, March 29, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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:You should have stopped with the apology.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 15:53, March 29, 2011 (UTC) | :You should have stopped with the apology.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 15:53, March 29, 2011 (UTC) | ||
::Oh, some facts are true on ''any'' site. A 10-year-old experimenting with web design might well create a ''Doctor Who'' site which asserts a true fact about the show. But we still don't use such a site as a reference. In the cases you give, above, the thing you would site is the '''actual CV''', not someone's ''report'' of the CV. Put another way, there's ''never'' a reason to cite DWS directly, but it's certainly possible that DWS might ''lead'' you to a source acceptable to our MOS. And there's no reason to apologise. It's an understandable mistake. But if you could please start removing your mistaken citations, that'd be great. :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ::Oh, some facts are true on ''any'' site. A 10-year-old experimenting with web design might well create a ''Doctor Who'' site which asserts a true fact about the show. But we still don't use such a site as a reference. In the cases you give, above, the thing you would site is the '''actual CV''', not someone's ''report'' of the CV. Put another way, there's ''never'' a reason to cite DWS directly, but it's certainly possible that DWS might ''lead'' you to a source acceptable to our MOS. And there's no reason to apologise. It's an understandable mistake. But if you could please start removing your mistaken citations, that'd be great. :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''16:12:29 Tue '''29 Mar 2011 </span> | ||
:::It's impossible. I tried it last night and gave up. We should stop using Doctorwhospoilers from now on, and leave the current references as they are. If we have a Series 7, then we can take a much tougher look a references. If we were to remove the site form Series 6, we can't do it until we have sources for all the cast members. Rumours should stay as they are, as long as the source mentions an official site. In Summer, after part one of Series 6 is air, then we may discuss the references then. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 16:27, March 29, 2011 (UTC) | :::It's impossible. I tried it last night and gave up. We should stop using Doctorwhospoilers from now on, and leave the current references as they are. If we have a Series 7, then we can take a much tougher look a references. If we were to remove the site form Series 6, we can't do it until we have sources for all the cast members. Rumours should stay as they are, as long as the source mentions an official site. In Summer, after part one of Series 6 is air, then we may discuss the references then. [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 16:27, March 29, 2011 (UTC) |