Theory:Torchwood television discontinuity and plot holes/Fragments: Difference between revisions

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::Jack covers this by referring to the then-current (political/security) climate; UNIT's behaviour parallels real-world criticisms of the United States and others in the War on Terror era. Also, UNIT was never thoroughly profiled; it may have had a dark side, much as Torchwood did. This is also implied in dialogue when [[Martha Jones]] tells the Doctor she wants to change the organization from the inside out in [[The Sontaran Stratagem]]. Also it is not known who is in charge of UNIT at this point in time as the relationship of former UNIT head [[Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart]] -- a more benevolent character -- have not been fully established; note, for example, UNIT's involvement with the world-destroying [[Osterhagen Key]] in [[Journey's End]]. There is also nothing in the Sontaran Stratagem or the Poison Sky that contradicts the depicton of UNIT in this episode. In fact it reinforces it, with Donna and the Doctor both taking an exceedingly dim view of UNIT and it's practices .
::Jack covers this by referring to the then-current (political/security) climate; UNIT's behaviour parallels real-world criticisms of the United States and others in the War on Terror era. Also, UNIT was never thoroughly profiled; it may have had a dark side, much as Torchwood did. This is also implied in dialogue when [[Martha Jones]] tells the Doctor she wants to change the organization from the inside out in [[The Sontaran Stratagem]]. Also it is not known who is in charge of UNIT at this point in time as the relationship of former UNIT head [[Alistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart]] -- a more benevolent character -- have not been fully established; note, for example, UNIT's involvement with the world-destroying [[Osterhagen Key]] in [[Journey's End]]. There is also nothing in the Sontaran Stratagem or the Poison Sky that contradicts the depicton of UNIT in this episode. In fact it reinforces it, with Donna and the Doctor both taking an exceedingly dim view of UNIT and it's practices .


*The killing of the Torchwood 3 team on Dec. 31, 1999 take place on the same day as the [[Eighth Doctor]] fought [[the Master]] in [[San Francisco]], an incident punctuated by news coverage of unusual weather and other odd events. ([[DW]]: ''[[Doctor Who (1996)|Doctor Who: the Movie]]'') Yet there's no mention of this at Torchwood, an organization that should know.
*The killing of the Torchwood 3 team on Dec. 31, 1999 take place on the same day as the [[Eighth Doctor]] fought [[the Master]] in [[San Francisco]], an incident punctuated by news coverage of unusual weather and other odd events. ([[TV]]: ''[[Doctor Who (1996)|Doctor Who: the Movie]]'') Yet there's no mention of this at Torchwood, an organization that should know.
::Time zones: midnight in the UK occurred many hours before midnight in San Francisco, and most of the odd weather and other events surrounding the Master's scheme did not manifest until only a few hours prior to the New Year in San Francisco. It's possible Torchwood would have been made aware of the events "off screen", though Jack would likely have been preoccupied with the murder of his team. Also, [[Torchwood One]] is still active at this point and would more likely have handled this issue. Plus Torchwood works for the British Empire and therefore would not go to America, unlike UNIT. At around the time Torchwood Three's members are killed, the Eighth Doctor would have only been meeting [[Grace Holloway]] for the first time, long before any major events transpired. The most that Torchwood would know at this point is that a man with two hearts had died in San Francisco, if that had even been reported. We also don't know what [[Alex Hopkins]] knew - he might have been well aware of these events but since he had snapped and was in the process of killing his team, it might have been irrelevant; Jack, for his part, was occupied by a mission.
::Time zones: midnight in the UK occurred many hours before midnight in San Francisco, and most of the odd weather and other events surrounding the Master's scheme did not manifest until only a few hours prior to the New Year in San Francisco. It's possible Torchwood would have been made aware of the events "off screen", though Jack would likely have been preoccupied with the murder of his team. Also, [[Torchwood One]] is still active at this point and would more likely have handled this issue. Plus Torchwood works for the British Empire and therefore would not go to America, unlike UNIT. At around the time Torchwood Three's members are killed, the Eighth Doctor would have only been meeting [[Grace Holloway]] for the first time, long before any major events transpired. The most that Torchwood would know at this point is that a man with two hearts had died in San Francisco, if that had even been reported. We also don't know what [[Alex Hopkins]] knew - he might have been well aware of these events but since he had snapped and was in the process of killing his team, it might have been irrelevant; Jack, for his part, was occupied by a mission.
:::That said, the TV movie (albeit bending time zones somewhat) seems to suggest ''something'' unusual happened in the UK late that night.[http://www.sfx.co.uk/2011/02/25/the-world-united/12/]  
:::That said, the TV movie (albeit bending time zones somewhat) seems to suggest ''something'' unusual happened in the UK late that night.[http://www.sfx.co.uk/2011/02/25/the-world-united/12/]  
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