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:::I'd like to note that it's never been said that the Doctor himself is removing signs of his existence. Him telling River "You said I got too big." doesn't really imply that he did it. Also, the Doctor DOES still exist, so the timeline hasn't technically been altered, only the databases containing information about him have. Even in Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, the Doctor didn't seem already convinced that Solomon wouldn't find information about him, he was just pleased to find out that Solomon didn't. If it were the Doctor himself deleting the information, you would think he would '''start''' with the Daleks, instead of Oswin doing it for him. He was surprised when that happened as well, and again similarly pleased about this fact. He may have no idea who or what is causing it, but he seems to be enjoying it too much to really care to find out. (That, or he '''does''' know the cause, but also knows that whatever/whoever is doing it seems to not be meaning any harm to the Doctor. Though even that is starting to slowly look wrong, since I have a feeling this is going to end up being a massively bad thing for him.) Not to mention UNIT clearly still knows about him, so he still exists to people outside of the TARDIS crew. There just happens to be a very select few of those people. [[User:Saghan|Saghan]] [[User talk:Saghan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:39, October 1, 2012 (UTC) | :::I'd like to note that it's never been said that the Doctor himself is removing signs of his existence. Him telling River "You said I got too big." doesn't really imply that he did it. Also, the Doctor DOES still exist, so the timeline hasn't technically been altered, only the databases containing information about him have. Even in Dinosaurs on a Spaceship, the Doctor didn't seem already convinced that Solomon wouldn't find information about him, he was just pleased to find out that Solomon didn't. If it were the Doctor himself deleting the information, you would think he would '''start''' with the Daleks, instead of Oswin doing it for him. He was surprised when that happened as well, and again similarly pleased about this fact. He may have no idea who or what is causing it, but he seems to be enjoying it too much to really care to find out. (That, or he '''does''' know the cause, but also knows that whatever/whoever is doing it seems to not be meaning any harm to the Doctor. Though even that is starting to slowly look wrong, since I have a feeling this is going to end up being a massively bad thing for him.) Not to mention UNIT clearly still knows about him, so he still exists to people outside of the TARDIS crew. There just happens to be a very select few of those people. [[User:Saghan|Saghan]] [[User talk:Saghan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:39, October 1, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::Saghan, "it's never been said that the Doctor himself is removing signs of his existence": Good point. You've got me wondering if the removal of information about the Doctor is part of the Series 7 story arc. The series is said (by Moffat, who can't always be believed) to be "less arc-heavy" than Series 6 & the vanishing information would fit with that, being rather less obtrusive than apparent murders & memory-editing aliens. It also featured notably in the opening episode, intimately associated with a character played by Jenna-Louise Coleman, who's billed to play the new companion. There's also been talk of stuff happening out of chronological sequence but no very obvious evidence of it -- '''unless''' it's the information loss. Perhaps, in that reference by River to the reason she was let out of clink, we're seeing the effect of something that we'll not see being done until later in the series. (Like the Doctor wearing a jacket when telling Amy to "remember" in ''Flesh and Stone'' being a result of events we didn't see until the Series 5 finalé.) --[[Special:Contributions/89.240.242.255|89.240.242.255]]<sup>[[User talk:89.240.242.255#top|talk to me]]</sup> 19:09, October 1, 2012 (UTC) | |||
