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::::This page (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Eleventh_Doctor_companions) lists the people marked as companions of the Eleventh Doctor. It includes Craig Owens, who has been in two televised adventures, but has never ridden on the TARDIS nor had his name in the opening credits. It includes John Riddell and Nefertiti, based on their off-screen adventure(s) with The Doctor and their single on-screen adventure and TARDIS rides in [[Dinosaurs on a Spaceship]]. It includes Vincent van Gogh, based off his one televised adventure and last minute TARDIS sneak peek of the future that Eleven opted to give him. It even includes Sarah Jane Smith and Jo Grant, due to Eleven’s guest appearance in the SJA spinoff. Finally, Dorium Maldovar and Madame Vastra are listed based on their [[A Good Man Goes to War]] appearances, Dorium’s [[The Wedding of River Song]] trip as a head in a box, and Vastra’s off-screen adventure(s) with Eleven. Jenny has been in just as many or more televised appearances with the Eleventh Doctors as others already listed as his companions. She also traveled in the TARDIS from Victorian London to Demon’s Run in AGMGTW. So I don’t see why she shouldn’t qualify as an Eleventh Doctor companion, but characters with just as many or fewer (like Vincent van Gogh) adventures with Eleven do. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.226.87|75.141.226.87]]<sup>[[User talk:75.141.226.87#top|talk to me]]</sup> 00:12, December 29, 2012 (UTC) | ::::This page (http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Eleventh_Doctor_companions) lists the people marked as companions of the Eleventh Doctor. It includes Craig Owens, who has been in two televised adventures, but has never ridden on the TARDIS nor had his name in the opening credits. It includes John Riddell and Nefertiti, based on their off-screen adventure(s) with The Doctor and their single on-screen adventure and TARDIS rides in [[Dinosaurs on a Spaceship]]. It includes Vincent van Gogh, based off his one televised adventure and last minute TARDIS sneak peek of the future that Eleven opted to give him. It even includes Sarah Jane Smith and Jo Grant, due to Eleven’s guest appearance in the SJA spinoff. Finally, Dorium Maldovar and Madame Vastra are listed based on their [[A Good Man Goes to War]] appearances, Dorium’s [[The Wedding of River Song]] trip as a head in a box, and Vastra’s off-screen adventure(s) with Eleven. Jenny has been in just as many or more televised appearances with the Eleventh Doctors as others already listed as his companions. She also traveled in the TARDIS from Victorian London to Demon’s Run in AGMGTW. So I don’t see why she shouldn’t qualify as an Eleventh Doctor companion, but characters with just as many or fewer (like Vincent van Gogh) adventures with Eleven do. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.226.87|75.141.226.87]]<sup>[[User talk:75.141.226.87#top|talk to me]]</sup> 00:12, December 29, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::::Just as a point of order, Craig Owens is explicitly referred to as a companion on screen, which somewhat stacks the deck in his case. [[Special:Contributions/70.72.211.35|70.72.211.35]]<sup>[[User talk:70.72.211.35#top|talk to me]]</sup> 06:03, January 3, 2013 (UTC) | |||
Because she just isn't. She wasn't a close friend of the Doctors. She wasn't a constant traveller. She wasn't really a main charactor for her first episode. She was just ''there''. She was, at most, [[Vastra]]'s companion. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 00:22, December 29, 2012 (UTC) | Because she just isn't. She wasn't a close friend of the Doctors. She wasn't a constant traveller. She wasn't really a main charactor for her first episode. She was just ''there''. She was, at most, [[Vastra]]'s companion. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 00:22, December 29, 2012 (UTC) | ||
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:::::It's either loosely applied or it's not. Clearly, a mod or admin needs to have the final word here, because she's just as much a companion as Adam Mitchell, Vincent van Gogh, Madame Vastra, and Dorium Maldovar. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.226.87|75.141.226.87]]<sup>[[User talk:75.141.226.87#top|talk to me]]</sup> 01:51, December 29, 2012 (UTC) | :::::It's either loosely applied or it's not. Clearly, a mod or admin needs to have the final word here, because she's just as much a companion as Adam Mitchell, Vincent van Gogh, Madame Vastra, and Dorium Maldovar. [[Special:Contributions/75.141.226.87|75.141.226.87]]<sup>[[User talk:75.141.226.87#top|talk to me]]</sup> 01:51, December 29, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:::::: Yeah, reading this particular discussion, personal individual opinion (statements like "Because she just isn't" is utterly meaningless. I agree with 75 that the judgement call has to be made by authority, not by us. Personally, I tend to go with what the BBC says, and last I looked, for example, Adam was considered a companion. Criteria such as "must have travelled in the TARDIS" cannot be included because if that's the case then Liz Shaw must be disqualified and no one wants to do that. (And if you want to be that technical, than Vastra and Jenny and Strax and Dorium and all companions because they rode in the TARDIS in AGMGTW (and Vastra got another ride in Snowmen), whereas Clara actually isn't a companion yet because she hasn't had the chance yet). [[Special:Contributions/70.72.211.35|70.72.211.35]]<sup>[[User talk:70.72.211.35#top|talk to me]]</sup> 06:03, January 3, 2013 (UTC) | |||
:Okay, of all the people you just listed, only Adam Mitchell is actually a companion. The rest I will remove myself. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 02:02, December 29, 2012 (UTC) | :Okay, of all the people you just listed, only Adam Mitchell is actually a companion. The rest I will remove myself. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 02:02, December 29, 2012 (UTC) | ||
