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Because Clara's computer skills are a result of her temporary upload by the Great Intelligence, I harbour suspicions that her apparent reincarnation might also be connected with the GI. There were comments in ''The Bells of Saint John'' about "immortality -- but fatal" & so on. The GI is associated with Tibet (''The Abominable Snowmen''), which is associated with reincarnation. Additionally, we've had recent references to two other GI stories: ''The Web of Fear'' was set in the London Underground in 1967 (map on box in ''The Snowmen''). That incident was one of the things that triggered the formation of UNIT & it involved Colonel (later Brigadier) Lethbridge-Stewart. Kate (Lethbridge-)Stewart, his daughter, was introduced in the spinoff ''Downtime'', the 3rd GI story, which has some similarities to ''The Bells of Saint John''. ''Downtime'' had the GI making use of a former companion, Victoria Waterfield, who came from the Victorian era but settled in the 20th century when she left the Doctor. The story also featured both the Brig & Sarah Jane Smith. It looks as if the GI is going to be a recurring adversary for a while, so a connection between it & the mystery of Clara wouldn't be surprising. (I was 89 & then 78 but I'm 2 now.) --[[Special:Contributions/2.96.29.117|2.96.29.117]]<sup>[[User talk:2.96.29.117#top|talk to me]]</sup> 11:59, April 3, 2013 (UTC) | Because Clara's computer skills are a result of her temporary upload by the Great Intelligence, I harbour suspicions that her apparent reincarnation might also be connected with the GI. There were comments in ''The Bells of Saint John'' about "immortality -- but fatal" & so on. The GI is associated with Tibet (''The Abominable Snowmen''), which is associated with reincarnation. Additionally, we've had recent references to two other GI stories: ''The Web of Fear'' was set in the London Underground in 1967 (map on box in ''The Snowmen''). That incident was one of the things that triggered the formation of UNIT & it involved Colonel (later Brigadier) Lethbridge-Stewart. Kate (Lethbridge-)Stewart, his daughter, was introduced in the spinoff ''Downtime'', the 3rd GI story, which has some similarities to ''The Bells of Saint John''. ''Downtime'' had the GI making use of a former companion, Victoria Waterfield, who came from the Victorian era but settled in the 20th century when she left the Doctor. The story also featured both the Brig & Sarah Jane Smith. It looks as if the GI is going to be a recurring adversary for a while, so a connection between it & the mystery of Clara wouldn't be surprising. (I was 89 & then 78 but I'm 2 now.) --[[Special:Contributions/2.96.29.117|2.96.29.117]]<sup>[[User talk:2.96.29.117#top|talk to me]]</sup> 11:59, April 3, 2013 (UTC) | ||
Now, 23 is popping up a lot, and that's the anniversary, but it could be other things as well. There are a lot of interesting pseudoscientific references and coincidences with 23, just google 23 numerology or 23 enigma. | |||
Its not just skipping the age, though. The Doctor "bumped her elbow" with the password, and she went from 23 to 24, which might be significant. VicClara has shown demonstrably more than human control of telepathic fields - Remember, she could melt the snowmen alone, and the telepathic focus of the ice governess - the little girl - couldnt do it herself. The Doctor even thought it was the whole family crying that melted the snow into a rain of tears, but from cinematography we were meant to conclude that it was just Clara's tear. Since Dalekwin was joking about Nina, who knows if she actually dated her equivalent Nina, but surely just having the name around her is significant. I also noticed that in the scene where the Doctor was confronting Dalek Oswin about her delusion, she was using different words, but she '''was''' sobbing about not knowing where she was. Speaking of cinematography, whenever this comes to a head, we can be sure that there will be lots of flashing red lights. I actually can't wait for ''Cold War'', not because of Ice Warriors, but because of Clara. And I think we've seen how they'll be using Clara in the narrative - she challenges him in a way that no one, not even River, does. ("I wish that I was more like that.") She makes him think, and reveal more of his thinking, just by being her own incredible enigma. I also think that whatever it is, the Great Intelligence is going to be key in whatever happens. And I find it quite curious that the Doctor didn't recall the name, especially with the subway map involved. | |||
It's interesting to note that Modern Clara has a father and mother that the Doctor has spoken to or seen, and he's seen her as a child, Indicating that this particular Clara has a history like a normal person. We don't have any independent confirmation that the other two have a fully fleshed existence - the publican says VicClara doesn't tell them where she goes and doesn't mention family, and her other employer is even more snowed (Hee hee) and we mostly know Dalekwin's past from her own words - basically we can only confirm that she climbed out of that ship by ladder. She could be some kind of temporal clone or something, created by an event yet to happen in the Doctor's timeline. I suspect that we've been shown the original Clara, now, though. | |||
Oh, and ModClara didn't quite hear that middle bit that the Doctor said (Oswin) and when she asked him to repeat he did his usual change the subject thing. She might have subconsciously remembered it, who knows. |
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