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There is a second problem though. I don't remember any other example of a Time Lord having a problem with fixed points. Doctor didn't have any aversion to Brooke. Nor did his TARDIS. He visited [[Pompeii]], had no problem. The Eleventh Doctor showed absolutely no signs of physical discomfort at [[Lake Silencio]]. Disclaimer: it's been awhile since I watched ''[[Utopia (TV story)|Utopia]]'', but my memory and my understanding of what happened was completely different. It was not a problem that Jack was a "fixed point", whatever that means in his case. The problem was that he was wrong, unnatural. Everything in the world comes to an end, but he was immortal, and this was what spooked the Doctor and the TARDIS. I feel like the current edit is jumping to conclusions. Was there an explicit causal link made between the fixed-pointedness and the TARDIS behaviour? [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:56, April 6, 2017 (UTC) | There is a second problem though. I don't remember any other example of a Time Lord having a problem with fixed points. Doctor didn't have any aversion to Brooke. Nor did his TARDIS. He visited [[Pompeii]], had no problem. The Eleventh Doctor showed absolutely no signs of physical discomfort at [[Lake Silencio]]. Disclaimer: it's been awhile since I watched ''[[Utopia (TV story)|Utopia]]'', but my memory and my understanding of what happened was completely different. It was not a problem that Jack was a "fixed point", whatever that means in his case. The problem was that he was wrong, unnatural. Everything in the world comes to an end, but he was immortal, and this was what spooked the Doctor and the TARDIS. I feel like the current edit is jumping to conclusions. Was there an explicit causal link made between the fixed-pointedness and the TARDIS behaviour? [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:56, April 6, 2017 (UTC) | ||
: i mean it might be just a sensitivity to events and when it comes to people they might cause the "allergy" sort of like people are meant to die so to speak {{unsigned|Soliy1| | : i mean it might be just a sensitivity to events and when it comes to people they might cause the "allergy" sort of like people are meant to die so to speak {{unsigned|Soliy1|19:26, 6 April 2017}} | ||
:: First things first. Let's get the full quote: {{quote|10: That's why I left you behind. It's not easy, even just looking at you, Jack, 'cause you're wrong.<br>JH: Thanks.<br>10: You are. I can't help it. I'm a Time Lord. It's instinct. It's in my guts. You're a fixed point in time and space. You're a fact. That's never meant to happen. Even the TARDIS reacted against you, tried to shake you off. Flew all the way to the end of the universe just to get rid of you.<br>JH: So what you're saying is you're prejudiced?<br>10: I never thought of it like that.<br>JH: Shame on you.<br>...<br>10: [Rose] brought you back to life. But she couldn't control it. She brought you back forever. ...|The Doctor explains how he feels about Jack's immortality.|[[Utopia (TV story)]]}} [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:06, April 6, 2017 (UTC) | :: First things first. Let's get the full quote: {{quote|10: That's why I left you behind. It's not easy, even just looking at you, Jack, 'cause you're wrong.<br>JH: Thanks.<br>10: You are. I can't help it. I'm a Time Lord. It's instinct. It's in my guts. You're a fixed point in time and space. You're a fact. That's never meant to happen. Even the TARDIS reacted against you, tried to shake you off. Flew all the way to the end of the universe just to get rid of you.<br>JH: So what you're saying is you're prejudiced?<br>10: I never thought of it like that.<br>JH: Shame on you.<br>...<br>10: [Rose] brought you back to life. But she couldn't control it. She brought you back forever. ...|The Doctor explains how he feels about Jack's immortality.|[[Utopia (TV story)]]}} [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:06, April 6, 2017 (UTC) | ||
it could that he reacts to similar fixed points Like pompeii | : Okay, several things. First, apparently, Jack is not a "[[fixed point in time]]" but a "fixed point in time and space". Is there a difference? I would argue that there is. Because Jack never should have happened, according to the [[Tenth Doctor]], whereas multiple other fixed point in time are all around and no one bats an eye. Apparently, there is one involving a mammoth that happened naturally and is shown in the [[Time Lord Academy]]. Jack is described as a unique fixed point in time and space on the fixed point page. The Doctor has a problem with him and him alone. There is no indication that it extends to fixed points in time only. On top of that, Jack suggests that it's just prejudice talking. And the Doctor does not disagree, which would suggest a different reading of the word "gut". It's more like Bush's gut telling him something, not like a physical sickness in the intestines. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:24, April 6, 2017 (UTC) | ||
it could that he reacts to similar fixed points Like pompeii {{unsigned|Soliy1|23:04, 6 April 2017}} | |||
